• Tue, Jul 20 2010

Israel Rules That Lying About Your Identity to Seduce a Woman Counts as Rape

Sometimes there are fuzzy definitions of the word “rape.” Whoopi Goldberg, for example, once famously said that Roman Polanski’s sexual assault of a teenage girl “wasn’t rape rape.” Now, Israel’s high court has ruled that lying about one’s identity in order to seduce a woman is considered rape. An Arab man living in Jerusalem “presented himself as a Jewish bachelor looking for a serious romantic relationship,” according to Ha’aretz, and then a woman agreed to have sex with him. Once she found out that he was neither Jewish nor looking for anything beyond a one-night stand, she pressed charges. The man was convicted of “rape by deception” and sentenced to 18 months in prison.

Does this mean that any time a dude lies to you (“I love you,” “No, that girl totally isn’t my girlfriend,” “My wife and I have an open relationship,” “I’m not like those other guys”) to get you to have sex with him that counts as rape? Is Mystery now a wanted felon? Can I retroactively press charges against that guy I hooked up with in college because he’s a douche? And if it’s illegal to claim you’re a Jewish man looking for a long term relationship when you’re not, is this going to put JDate out of business?

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  • Jess

    This certainly opens up quite a few doors when it comes to convicting rapists. Noting “Mystery,” however, isn’t quite the same as down right lying to someone. White lies? Who doesn’t lie? How can we quantify or even validate white lies? Big lies, though- “No, I don’t have an STD,” (which, specifically, I believe is already illegal in many, if not all states?) is different than “Yeah, I’m a natural blond.”
    Cultural significance is also important here as well- in the States, non-marital sex isn’t as large a deal- nationwide- as in India. At the same time- you have to ask: Did the two participate willingly? Was any contract- legally binding- made that a consummated relationship would result in marriage? Can we punish liars because people choose to believe them?

    • adamalmnse

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  • Eileen

    What if it had been the other way around – i.e. if a man represented himself as an Arab man looking for a hot one-night stand, slept with a woman, and then proceeded to reveal that he was actually Jewish, looking for a marriage-tracked relationship, and planning to pursue her? Or if a woman represented herself as being interested in a man, had sex with him, took his phone number, and then never called him? I think that the bottom line in a case like this, where there seems to have been (based only on what you’ve written) not much of a relationship established between the two and the sex appears to have been fully consensual, is that if you have sex with someone you don’t know very well, there’s a pretty good chance you don’t know him very well.

  • Jen Dziura

    Other commenters have mentioned cases in which lying would clearly not equate to rape. However, I once dated a twin, and kind of casually had the thought — what if they, um, “switched”? (The twins were roommates). I mean, what if your boyfriend noted that, while he often got to have sex, his single twin did not, so he decided to help out his brother by ducking out of the room and allowing his brother to duck back in, and then you had sex with your boyfriend’s twin, thinking it was your boyfriend? Is that rape?

  • Peter Feld

    What’s particularly ironic is that if there is any hope for peace between Palestinians and Israeli Jews, it lies in intermarriage and an eventual blurring of boundaries between the two populations until they merge.

    This ridiculous case is not a good argument in favor of Israel’s legal system. It also reminds me of a funny joke I won’t tell here, about a truck driver who picks up a hitchhiking nun and tells her he was once an altar boy.

  • Dartfin

    @Jen D
    Well, yes, that’d be rape, as that’s a wholly separate being that you had no intention of sleeping with. So the sex on your end was non-consensual. This is one person saying he’s one thing and being punished with jail-time for lying essentially. If I’m able to convince you I’m a millionaire and drive a Lexus and you sleep with me on those grounds (the same superficiality as a person’s race) and you find out neither are true, well you’re the ridiculous one. Who expects a serious relationship to arise from sleeping with someone when you first meet? There’s a reason I don’t date those girls. And ladies that’s why you shouldn’t actually date the men you hook up with upon first meeting them. The day naivete becomes the basis of a plaintiff’s suit is the day people stop having casual sex.

    • Buckley Rush

      Are you mentaly challenged or just plain stupid ?

  • Marilyn

    The newspaper headlines keep referring to it as “consensual sex”, but it is obvious to me that if the man lied about his identity, then she thought she knew whom she had agreed to have sex with, but in fact she didn’t. And in that case, the sex could not be described as consensual. It was non-consensual sex by deception. If someone takes your money by deception that is considered to be an offence. All the more so, I believe, in the case of sex.

  • adamalmnse

    iam looking for one night stand ,you can call me in 056981267 from israel