Which Of These Flyers Is More Offensive?

We were fishing around on Passive Agressive Notes and came across these two fliers. The first one is for a fly fishing class taught by a woman. Here it is:

Now, this strikes me as sort of ludicrous in its own right given that fly fishing doesn’t seem like an activity you’d feel “unsafe” around male instructors for. I mean, I perfer having a female doctor (because of naked lady time) but other than that, I’ve never really thought that I have a specific male/female instructor preference. It also seems like making it seem like women would only be able to learn to fly fish if they have a female instructor is something of a disservice to women in general. Goddammit, I could learn fly fishing if taught by the flies alone! They’re all I need! But then they’re this:

I guess you could say this flyer was only reacting the other one, but it’s more obviously offensive, yes? Because fly fishing is a skill, and men are not necessarily better at it! I guess what I’m saying is “both these flyers are dumb, the gender of your fly fishing instructor really shouldn’t matter that terribly much.”

So. Which one seems more bothersome?

Sorry! This poll is now closed.


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    • Hanna

      I actually think the guy version is meant as kind of a joke, I find the girl’s version a lot worse.

    • Elle

      Way to miss the point of the first one. A lot of times, women find it hard to partake in activities that are mostly male-dominated, because men tend to have very condescending attitudes towards women, or will attempt to flirt with them or speak over them. A woman’s fly-fishing class sounds perfectly reasonable for a woman who wants to learn, but is afraid of men not taking her seriously because she’s just a girl.

      Do you also find women’s colleges offensive? Or female only gyms, or self-defense classes that are for women only? Because there is a very real need for those to exist.

      • sara

        I second this!! Seriously, men can be so condescending to women in male-dominated arenas and it’s always nice to have the option to do that stuff with women.

        And the second one was just a funny, harmless play on the other won.

        Good lord..I don’t find these offensive at all.

    • Abigail

      I think that you’re being self-righteous and a bit annoying with regard to the first ad. She was offering a service to women who might not want to spend all their time hanging out with men on a river (done it- it’s not fun). She wasn’t trying to be sexist. The man was clearly making a joke to catch your attention, and wasn’t trying to be sexist either.

      Is it just me, or are women getting obnoxiously sex-aware lately? Good lord, get a life!

      • Audrey

        Yes! That is exactly right. I don’t find either of these offensive at all, and I agree that so many women today are too quick to cry wolf about anything that mentions gender.

    • Lindsey

      I see it like, this woman is trying to sell a service and she’s marketing herself to women. I think she’s probably trying to make fly-fishing a ‘ladies night out’ sort of thing, like she’s trying to lure (get it? A fishing pun!) a group of non-fishing womanz out for a weekend. Like, an alternative to woman taking a pottery or cooking class for funsies?

    • August S.

      What’s the blue ink-drawing that’s been added to the first flier? I can’t decide if it’s a beer can on a stick (a ludicrous invention, but I’ve seen odder on QVC) or a dollar bill. Except if it’s a bill, it appears to be one where the traditional face-of-an-important-figure-in-American-History has been replaced by….Pac-Man!

      I think it’s offensive that we don’t have Pac-Man currency in real life. Whoever defaced the original flier is a visionary (although probably a misogynistic one, since putting the dollar on a string seems to imply a woman could be tricked into leaving her fly-fishing fun by a mysteriously retreating dollar. This is as sexist as it is stupid.)

    • Sarah

      Yeahhhh, this is sort of one of the most pointless posts I’ve ever read on thegloss. Also…spellcheck, girl. Use it.