• Mon, Oct 3 2011

Real Talk: What Kind Of Plastic Surgery Would You Get?

Plastic surgery has been a bit of a popular topic around the office today, probably having something to do with Courtney Stodden, who hit the beach this weekend to prove once and for all that she probably had plastic surgery*. Anyway, cosmetic procedures on our simple brains, we decided to ask a bunch of ladies what kind of plastic surgery they’d get. Don’t be fooled by the post’s title, though, as plenty of them expressed fear of or disdain for “the knife.”

*Some of you are also calling, “Spray on abs!”

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  • Eileen

    I have some substantial scarring from a car accident when I was a kid, so I might get that fixed. But I’ve also kinda made my peace with them, so maybe I won’t.

  • Megan

    Does an eyebrow augmentation count? Not a lift…I need more hair. I have a lovely shape, not overplucked, perfect arch…and I still need to fill the damn things in because (although they’re black!) they’re just sparse.

    I love my nose, my chin, my boobs, my tummy, my butt…all I want is to put down the brow powder.

  • rita

    I’ve always wanted fake boobs but I’ve also always hated them. They look awful, and for me, the size of my breasts doesn’t exactly bother me… or I guess, I should just say I hate the way they look overall. With clothes on I look flat and have no cleavage, and I also have very large ribs, so my ribs stick out as far as my chest. But without clothes I think they are awkward and ugly. I always have and only on some rare occasions after I’ve gained a little weight and I see them from a certain angle do I find them at all attractive. So I’m kind of come to the conclusion that surgery wouldn’t be able to fix that and I’ll spend thousands of dollars to continue hating my breasts. It’s just an insecurity I’ve learned to live with.

  • Abigail

    Wow. Helen is an ignorant bitch, isn’t she? Personally, I would love to have get breast implants, because I never develped past a 32A, and it’s always left me feeling very gawky and awkward as a girl. I already am taller than most guys I know, and have wide shoulders, and between all of that, I’ve never been very comfortable in my own skin. So, that’s having been said, I would love to get implants. Nothing huge, but like a large B or small C. My husband loves my smaller breasts, but I would like to get larger ones anyway. My mom had hers done this past year (she nursed 8 children, so…), and hers are the perfect size for her body and turned out great. I’m hoping to go to the same doctor to get mine.

    • Cassie

      Helen is not an ignorant bitch just because she doesn’t have the same crippling insecurities you do.

    • tc

      Nope Cassie, Helen’s a bitch.

    • Em

      So now we’re judging people based on their insecurities? It’s not up to other people to say anyone is “weak minded” based on their personal opinions and the actions they choose to take. We’re all still women who deserve respect, so let’s stop belittling one another for the way we feel about our bodies. If you are pro-plastic surgery, great! If not, also great! Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but this girl-on-girl bashing has got to stop.

  • August S.

    *raises hand* I’ve had it!

    I was born with slightly messed-up generic code, and instead of developing sweet X-men-type super-powers, I got thick, fibrous tissue bands (total. f’ing. ripoff.). It wasn’t something that was obvious when you met me and it wasn’t life-threatening, but it was unsightly and embarrassing. I had reconstructive surgery to remove the deformity, and then cosmetic surgery to improve shape and scarring. I’ve never regretted it–even when people around me have mocked plastic surgery for being the domain of the desperate. In my experience, when someone is angry/disgusted with people who choose to alter their looks, the offended party usually has insecurity about their own appearance. They interpret another person’s very personal choice get plastic surgery as a criticism of their decision not to get it, and lash out. That’s really unfortunate for everyone involved, and a lot like bullying.

    You know what I don’t understand at all? Women who will stand up and fight for our right to choose whether or not to carry a fetus to term…and then turn around and bash another woman for choosing to get a nose job or implants or fricken’ teeth-whitening! I believe it’s my body and my choice–whether that’s in regard to abortion, tattoos, weight or cosmetic surgery. Everyone should just do what makes them happy, and not take differences of option as slaps in the face.

  • Goldie

    Whoa, Helen! IMMORAL? Judge people much? Anyway…

    I think the only thing I would consider is MAYBE a boob job after I have kids. I go back and forth over it (not that I even have the option right now). I’m really flat and have a REALLY large butt. I actually really like having little boobs (so low maintenance!), and I’ve come to like my big butt too. What I hate is the proportion of my body, the way my clothes fit, etc. I can almost never wear anything that’s one piece, and when my weight goes up, being flat just emphasizes my love handles, hips, etc.

    Any time I’ve mentioned it to the bf he’s like, NO NO NO. And I don’t even know any 13-year-olds– not even on the internet! WHAT NOW, HELEN??

  • Jamie Peck

    Calm down, guys. Helen is totes just Ashley’s Tea Party alter-ego talking. Guess it’s time to drill a hole in her head to let the demons out again!

  • Norah

    Why is everyone hating on Helen? Plastic surgery IS immoral and stupid. It’s like an all time low for people who have self esteem issues. Women need to accept themselves for who they are. And if they don’t like it, haul ass to the gym and fix it yourself.

    • Cassie

      yeahhh go Helen and Norah! fight the power!
      plastic surgery IS for the weak minded. if you get plastic surgery, that means that you are allowing the world to pressure you into thinking you’re not good enough the way you are.

      if you were alone on a desert island, would you give a fuck about what your thighs/nose/tits looked like? no. people get plastic surgery to fit into what they think OTHER people want them to look like.

      women who are admirable and strong do not submit to pressures like that.
      i’m not talking about like, car accident victims obviously, i’m talking about breast implants and nose jobs.

      i’m a 34A and i’ve got thick thighs and a big ass, but i love it all. i don’t need cleavage to feel good about myself.
      Abigail, your problem is not your body. your problem is your mindset.

    • August S.

      Yes, obviously changing your appearance through plastic surgery is a response to what society deems attractive.

      In the same fashion, not stealing/killing people/shitting in public is a response to what society deems appropriate. We use actions and appearance to make a statement about our ourselves. Plastic surgery is a form of self-expression, and just because you disagree with the values on display doesn’t mean the choice is invalid.

      Women should accept themselves for who they are…and they should also accept others for who they are and who they want to be. I would never belittle someone who decided plastic surgery wasn’t for them, and I think that calling people “stupid” or “weak-minded” is a lot more offensive than a couple grams of silicone.

    • Cassie

      Regarding “Plastic surgery is a form of self-expression,” plastic surgery is, by definition, the opposite of “self”.

      I suppose August is saying that the ideal is ultimate acceptance of everyone’s ideas about everything- that there are no right things and no wrong things, or, at least, that plastic surgery is neither right nor wrong. It is a very on-the-fence argument.

    • Eileen

      @Cassie And you know what? Even when they’re ugly scars from skin grafts after a car accident, after awhile everything that’s “wrong” with you becomes a part of you. You don’t necessarily like them, but it gets hard to picture your being yourself without them.

    • August S.

      I’d disagree that plastic surgery is the opposite of self– for instance, my taste in music isn’t a result of my genetics, but I still consider it part of my “self”. I don’t think a characteristic has to be innate for it to be meaningful. If my “self” is just my phenotype, that seems pretty limited. Don’t you think choosing to alter your body says something about you? That’s the definition (to borrow your phrase) of expression, and (unless someone is kidnapped, sedated and wakes up with a different nose) it’s their choice. A choice influenced by society, sure, but very few of our choices aren’t.

      I see how my comments could be read as moral-relativism, so let me clarify: I’m actually very pro-plastic surgery, as long as the person is of age and not suffering from a mental illness that would impair their judgement (e.g. body dysmorphic disorder). But just because I’m pro-plastic surgery for those who want it doesn’t mean I think that the people who are anti-plastic surgery are any less intelligent or moral than I am.

      My ideal isn’t no discussion, it’s discussion without belittling each other with phrases like “lying sack of shit” or “weak-minded.” I think there’s a way for people to comment on a society with unrealistic beauty standards without demeaning those who chose to pursue those standards to some extent.

    • Abigail

      First of all: I don’t have a “problem”. Second of all, my opinion does, in fact, come from my “mindset”. I love bigger breasts, I was always bummed that I didn’t get them, and after nursing two children, I have to wear a pushup bra just to get my tiny 32As. Would I be able to live a happy, fulfilling life if I didn’t get breast implants? Yes. Would my marriage fall apart if I wasn’t the epitome of perfect breasts? No. Would I survive. Absolutely. But, it makes me happy, and so I’m going to continue saving up for them regardless of what you think.

  • Sarah

    Good news to everyone who’s thinking of a boob job!!!

    Stem cell breast augmentation! A doctor developed a method of extracting stem cells from your adipose tissues, then inject it into your boobs. It’s perfectly natural because there are literally no complications due to inserting foreign objects into your body. The result is not immediate and will not be dramatic, unlike inserting gel pads. The stem cells first differentiate into adipose tissues like those around them and cause your breasts to slowly grow a bit more.

    Currently the technology has been used to help breast cancer patients reconstruct their breasts, and is not widely available to the public yet. But many surgeons predict this technology to go commercially in the next 4-5 years!

    HOLY GRAIL.

    • Eileen

      This is part of why I dislike plastic surgery. With all the amazing potential of stem cells, why use so much time and money learning how to use them to make women’s boobs bigger?

    • Sarah

      Haven’t you read my second paragraph??? It’s being used to help breast cancer survivors reconstruct their chest section that has been completely cut off.

      Without the commercial demand for plastic surgery the technology would not have grown like it did today. Therefore those who suffered from trauma and needed reconstruction would not have gotten any help. See the positive side of things. Don’t just deny every aspect of something.

  • August S.

    So I realized my previous comments can be summed up as “Stop being mean to each other! Show respect for different viewpoints instead of blindly bashing them!”

    I mean, we’re on the internet here, ladies! A medium know for its respectful, reasonable discussions…and lack of profanity…and carefully measured view points….

    Wait. Crap.

    I just did the debate equivalent of ordering a cheesesteak at a chinese restaurant, didn’t I?

    Okay, continue to call people you disagree with stupid and weak– hey maybe add in a “slut” or two for those trollops with implants! I’m going to be offline for a bit, curled up with an Edith Wharton novel, silently commiserating with Ralph Marvell.

    I’ll leave this type of discussion to those who enjoy it more.

    • kjon

      Enjoy that book! I’m just finishing it the second time (:

      PS I agree with everything you said, if it matters.

  • Jinx

    I agree with Helen.

  • MM

    Wow, a lot of people here are really defensive about plastic surgery. Like all things in life, I think people should be free to spend their money on plastic surgery, and the rest of us should be free to judge them on it. Sorry, I have less respect for a person who thinks throwing down money on puffy fish lips is a good idea. If that makes me a bad feminist for judging other women’s decisions, so fucking be it.

  • Jamie Peck

    I firmly believe that it’s possible to discuss the societal factors that lead women to make one choice or another without belittling the women who make those choices. Unfortunately, that’s not what’s happening here. Play nicely, folks.

    • rita

      and this is why you are by far my favorite writer at The Gloss

  • Bee

    I’ve had cosmetic surgery.
    I’ve never, ever regretted the decision, and my life has only been better because of it.

    Like it or not, the uncompromising biology of beauty is real, and it often controls how people treat each other. My nose job at 16 gave me the confidence to do things like sit in class without pressing my fingertips into the bridge of my nose, tenting my hands out, and resting my thumbs under my chin.
    Yeah.
    I used my hands to cover my face for the better part of a decade, and I’m far, far happier keeping them free to do more important things, like flip off anyone who’d actually have the balls to call me a lying-piece-of-rhinoplastied-shit to my face.

    • rita

      Love this!! I’m so self-conscience about my huge nose and use my hands to cover it on days when im feeling really bad about myself. not always and def not everyday but when i feel that way i just wish i could do something about it

  • MR

    I’m going to redirect. I’m older, but not that old. I find a middle age woman more attractive than a younger woman. I think a woman should age naturally, not use plastic surgery. It’s how a woman carries herself which determines her allure to a man. Hmm, maybe a little higher high heel and a little shorter hem, though not too much shorter. I like how creative a woman with smaller breasts can be to get a man to both notice and like them.

  • Natasha

    While I was in high school, I wanted all sorts of silly procedures. Now, the only thing I want is the removal of a large scar on my wrist. It’s from falling through a glass door as a child, but it looks like a self-inflicted injury. I feel like people judge me based on it. If I can prevent people from believing (falsely) that I am suicidal, it would make my interpersonal interactions much easier. It’s not for vanity. If I can make people more likely to treat me as an equal, why wouldn’t I?

  • lucygoosey74

    I used to really obsess about “fixing” my slackness in the chin/neck area. However, I’ve been seeing way too many photos of people who looked perfectly fine before being transformed into freakish caricatures. I’m finally beginning to accept myself for who I am. Not to insult anyone who has had plastic surgery, I don’t believe that it’s wrong or anything, but man, so some people fuck it up with horrible fish lips, and whatever the fuck Madonna’s done to her face!