Rep. Yasmin Neal Proposes Ban On Vasectomies In Response To Abortion Bill

Rep. Yasmin Neal

Remember when Virginia State senator Janet Howell proposed a bill that would force men to endure medically unnecessary rectal exams in response to the preposterous, insulting and horrible Virginia legislation that forces women to be probed against their will if they want an abortion? Well, if you don’t, I’ve sufficiently reminded you, but you can click that link if you want.

Anyway, Doug McKillip, R-Athens, is also trying to make it harder/shittier for women to get abortions with a bill–”HB 954″–which seeks to make 20 weeks the cutoff time for an abortion, because that’s the point at which a fetus begins to feel pain. The measure also wants to demonize women and make it harder to get abortions based on “life of the mother,” exceptions: “No such condition shall be deemed to exist if it is based on a diagnosis or claim of a mental or emotional condition of the pregnant woman or that the pregnant woman will purposefully engage in conduct which she intends to result in her death or in substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function.” Current law prohibits abortion after 24 weeks, so HB 954 is just another disturbing example of someone trying to hack away at a woman’s constitutional rights.

In response–and perhaps in a nod to the aforementioned Howell–House Democrats have scheduled a Wednesday hearing at the state Capitol, to propose a bill that would ban Georgia males from seeking vasectomies. Take it away, press release:

“Thousands of children are deprived of birth in this state every year because of the lack of state regulation over vasectomies,” said Rep. Yasmin Neal, author of the bill. “It is patently unfair that men can avoid unwanted fatherhood by presuming that their judgment over such matters is more valid than the judgment of the General Assembly, while women’s ability to decide is constantly up for debate throughout the United States.”

House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams added, “The Republican attack on women’s reproductive rights is unconscionable. What is more deplorable is the hypocrisy of HB 954’s author. If we follow his logic, we believe it is the obligation of this General Assembly to assert an equally invasive state interest in the reproductive habits of men and substitute the will of the government over the will of adult men.”

Oddly, banning a man’s constitutional right to do what he wants with his reproductive organs strikes everyone as immediately insane… but some people still think that’s up for debate when it comes to ladies. Thank you, Ms. Neal, for pointing that out, though it’s a shame someone had to do it.

(via AJC, where there’s way more video, and Rawstory)

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    • superjack

      And that’s why Yasmin is my birth control of choice!

      …I’ll be here all night.

    • Rachel

      Oh, god. This. This woman graduated from high school with my husband. I read this story last night and my brain went numb. It had just gotten back to normal, too… Oh well.

      • Ebony

        I am afraid that you may have missed the point…by a long shot

    • Blake

      This Women need’s to get her head out of her A**. What is the difference is it going to make to pass this bill. I mean come on think about it next it will be illegal to be celibate, or to wear a condom because that would also deprive the birth of a child.

      • Super C

        The bill isn’t going to pass, obviously. It would be considered unconstitutional. But Rep. Neal is making an extremely valid point about the ridiculous attempts to control women’s bodies that the current administration is endorsing. It’s appalling and more people should be up in arms about it.

      • Elle

        I really hope you show this much outrage when Republicans try to take away women’s reproductive rights. Something tells me you don’t :(

      • Alyssa

        Mississippi already tried to pass a bill that blocked ANY method of contraception for the exact reason that you just sarcastically wrote Blake. This is real. Old, God-fearing Republican MEN are trying to control what we do to our bodies. And not just women. They are trying to take away our right to make personal choices and decisions. It’s terrifying.

    • MM

      This is an awesome trend.

    • ikea

      People really need to get a sense of humor. That being said, a fertilized egg is a lot different than a wad of jizz. A fetus has the potential to be a human, a period or some guy’s jizz in a kleenex does not.

      Abortion values different stages of life over others. Supporting abortion means that an unborn child’s life is worth less than the cost to the mother should she have the child. It also means a younger child’s life is worth less than an older child’s. Extending this across the age spectrum and gender, you can argue that the person whose life is worth the most is a woman in her mid 20′s, because women in the prime of their lives are more valuable than men, children and the aged in preserving the species. If you support abortion you have to agree with the above statements, which I think are logical and as objective as you can get.

      Another thing is a man’s right to choose. If women can have abortions then men should be able to choose to have no responsibility for the child’s well being if the mother decides to keep the child. If the father wants to keep the child and the mother doesn’t… well I guess the father’s choice is overridden.

      • Lizzie

        “you can argue that the person whose life is worth the most is a woman in her mid 20′s, because women in the prime of their lives are more valuable than men, children and the aged in preserving the species.”

        I would take into account cultural biases. Women in their mid 20′s are definitely not the most valuable members of society according to all cultural beliefs. That is an American perspective. Also, it’s important to consider other factors, like race, (dis)ability, and class. By “woman in her mid 20s,” I subconsciously pictured a middle class white woman. Would a middle class white man* in his mid 20s still be “worth” less than an impoverished, Hispanic, wheelchair-bound woman? Your statement is logical according to certain perspectives, but far from objective or universal.

      • ikea

        Hi Lizzie,

        Thanks for reading my comment. I think you are misinterpreting what I meant though. I was speaking in purely biological terms in relation to survival of the species. A woman at her most fertile and physically fit stage of life is more valuable to the survival of the human race than any other type of human.

        In terms of culture, I do agree with you. There are cultural biases which I think are wrong. In pretty much every culture men are seen as more valuable, which in purely objective biological survival/reproduction terms is not true.

      • MR

        @ikea: It’s not clear if you’re criticizing or supporting Rep. Neal’s actions here? But how about the current Republican presidential field, which with the exception of I believe of Paul – and I might be wrong on that – are all anti-abortion. The House of Representatives is also controlled by mostly anti-abortion Republican factions. When Bush II was president this was also true. If Obama was to lose (he won’t) then the thing we would need most be concerned about is the Senate going to a 60 seat Republican (filibuster proof) majority. Bush II did not have that. This is the political landscape where abortion rights are under siege. I agree with your biological analysis, as long as it is within the context of a woman’s right to choose.

      • Lindsay

        MR- Ron Paul is VERY against abortion and supports the Personhood Amendment just like the other Republican candidates for president.

      • MR

        Okay, thanks Lindsay. I thought maybe because his views are libertarian, he might uphold a woman’s right to choose – that is the individual’s right, not the State’s to determine. But I must admit though I’m paying attention to what’s going on in the Republican presidential nomination fight, I’m not that deep into each candidate’s platform details. I’m very surprised that the last national poll shows both Santorum and Romney only 2-3% points back of Obama, head to head. Santorum is a lot more dangerous than I orginally thought.

      • Jonathan

        It is sad that so many people feel so entitled to so much. Your rights end when another persons begins. Sadly the woman’s right to choose if she will reproduce is when she has sex as well as men right to reproduce is he they have sex. People can argue about embryos not being babies all they want, the fact of science is that life starts at conception, that fact can not be disputed. So when the it says Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness it included Baby’s that are just starting. Women have rights men have rights, one should not trump the other. I am a libertarian, and I believe that the baby that was conceived, at the time when the two people making it were exercising their right of choose to reproduce or not, has rights like I said your rights stop when another ones begins. If you don’t agree with my statements than you should look back at the science of life and the philosophy of a persons rights. After you have life you have rights. life starts at conception. Rights start at conception. Thank you for your time.

    • D

      I think that there is one major detail overlooked in this debate. THE FERTILIZED EGG, AKA EMBRYO. A man having a vasectomy is solely consequential to HIS organs, HIS life. An abortion actually ceases life, even if only in the earliest stages of cell growth. No one argues a vasectomy because it can at a later time be reversed. An abortion, hysterectomy, etc cannot. Debating a “pre-empitve” surgery such as a tubal ligation / vasectomy would make sense… but debating these against a POST-emptive surgery that literally affects a fetus- especially when it is based on when the fetus feels pain is absurd. I do not as a rule get into the debate about abortion. I believe it is wrong- it ends the life and growth of a human being. However- weighing vasectomy against 20-24 weeks of a living organism’s survival is as simple as apples and oranges.

    • joye

      There is a HUGE difference between a man getting snipped compared to ending the life of a unborn baby. People do not seem to realize that sometimes.

      • Elle

        There is a HUGE difference between an embryo and a baby. People do not seem to realize that sometimes.

      • glory

        Actually, there is no difference.
        A man getting snipped actually ends any chance of producing a life, ergo, killing it befrore it begins. this answer makes about as much sense as your comment.

    • Amy

      The language of her proposed Bill seems to imply that she is not actually intending on having it taken seriously.

      She’s using it to make a point… I thought that was obvious..?

    • Lee

      Please people do not forget that there has been much talk about banning all forms of contraseption! The premise is that even the egg unfertized is life and has rights! If its ok to take away the women’s choice to prevent pregnancy, it should also apply to our male counterparts! Don’t let this come up on the ballot in my state because I’m so voting for it! Watch out guys, masterbation to be outlawed soon in a state near you!

    • BD

      Here’s the solution: All men should undergo mandatory castration or vasectomy at puberty. He can store his semen prior to the surgery. That way, no child will be born unwanted and the Friggin GOP can get their dang noses out of the business of women.

    • Lynne

      I admire and appreciate Representative Yasmin taking a stand for women and the right to choose!