• Wed, Oct 10 - 3:14 pm ET

Celebrities We Irrationally Hate: Lana Del Rey

Ashley and I have taken a lot of heat on this here website for making fun of Lana Del Rey, so I figure I should take a moment to explain myself. We like to joke around about people (it’s kind of our job), but I also have some real and sincere reasons for disliking this woman. (Or rather, her public persona, as I don’t personally know her.)

There’s so much here I don’t know where to begin! So I’m organizing my hatred into several categories. I do think it’s important to separate out your feminist reasons for disiking someone from your music snob reasons from your purely subjective and visceral ones. Like, I will defend the people who get plastic surgery from judgment on feminist grounds, but I still reserve the right to dislike the way it looks. Ya dig?

Feminist/Political Reasons

I’m going to start with the most important reasons first, so you don’t just start off thinking I’m an asshole. Lana Del Rey has constructed an image that is heavily dependent on sexist stereotypes, the beauty myth, and the larger myth of the American Dream. She makes many, many references to red dresses, makeup, diamonds, and high heels, and she loves to pose in front of the American flag. She says “you like your girls insane” and refers to herself as “crazy” a bunch of times in a way that really gets under my skin. She’s so American and female and perfect that her pussy tastes not like pussy, but Pepsi Cola!

This is all well and good; plenty of artists, male and female, have played around with American iconography and gender as performance. The problem is, she doesn’t really play around with these things at all. She throws a bunch of imagery out there, but then does nothing with it, creating an end result that’s more conservative than subversive. (Or maybe it’s simply muddled.) When Hunter S. Thompson posed in front of the American flag, it didn’t come off jingoistic because he’d earned it with his complete interrogation of America. LDR fails that test.

And unlike, say, PJ Harvey or Courtney Love, she doesn’t seem to think that the trappings of femininity are something to be put on knowingly and then taken off again, examined, and reckoned with. She is sincerely in love with them and what they can do for her, and you don’t get the sense that she understands their more problematic aspects. Or if she does, her response is one of docility and acceptance; she sounds sad a lot of the time, but she never sounds mad. I want my female singer-songwriters to be mad about these things! (And not necessarily in a masculine, aggressive way; the hysterical, feminine keening of Tori Amos will also do just fine.) When she says “God you’re so handsome, take me to the Hamptons,” there’s little to indicate she’s being ironic. (Points for name checking the female gaze, though?) It’s okay that most of her songs are about loving a (usually bad for her) man (I love men, too!) but I wish she’d stop at least once to get mad at the men for the shitty things they’ve done to her, or ask herself WHY she likes such shitty dudes, instead of just telling us that she does and THAT’S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

And I could write a whole post on her fundamental mis-reading of Lolita. The famous literary rape victim appears a few times on Born To Die, as well as Lana’s styling and press releases. (If I never hear the phrase “Lolita got lost in the hood” again, I will die happy.) Lana Del Rey has never said or done anything to indicate that she knows Lolita is a text about child rape, and not some sexy, glamorous advertisement for being young and hot and American. Any thinking person knows that “Lolita” can never be short hand for “I, an adult woman, enjoy consensually fucking wealthy older men and calling them ‘Daddy.’” Which is gross in its own way, but we’ll get to that.

And then there are the class issues. Oh, the class issues. (I really should have split this category up into several sub-sections.) As with gender, she talks about America’s modern caste system in a way that’s resigned at best, admiring at worst. When she purr-raps “money is the reason we exist, everybody knows it it’s a fact, kiss kiss,” it makes my skin crawl. Again, I’m not convinced she’s being ironic.

Class issues aren’t confined to her lyrics, either. Lana Del Rey (born Lizzy Grant) is the daughter of a wealthy domain name entrepreneur who financed her early career, yet she unabashedly talks about herself like she knows what it’s like to be poor. Hearing LDR talk about living in a trailer park is like hearing Hannah Horvath complain about how broke she is because she can’t get a job as an essayist. In the immortal words of Jarvis Cocker, “if you called your dad, he could stop it all.” I’d respect LDR a lot more if she owned and engaged with her privilege instead of making up some ridiculous Horatio Alger origin story. The way she uses “ghetto” imagery is also problematic, but I think I’ll let the hip-hop experts talk about that.

And then there’s the American dream, which appears everywhere in her music, and which she tends to view as desirable and achievable. Basically, I think anyone who claims to believe in “the American dream via hard work” as a feasible way people can get what they want on a mass level is either a huge sucker or a rich person trying at all costs to preserve their own privilege.

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  • http://thegloss.com/ Ashley Cardiff

    Choice Jarvis shoutout.

    • http://thegloss.com/ Ashley Cardiff

      Also. WHY ARE YOU SUCH A JEALOUS HARPY?

    • jamiepeck

      I think it’s because no one hugged me as a child.

  • Ms. Pants

    First thought on seeing the title of this post: “But is it really irrational?”

    After reading: “Nope, not irrational at all.”

    Any way you slice it, this girl is a sandpaper tampon.

    • Amy

      HAHAHA!
      P.S. I approve of the entire article.

    • Samantha_Escobar

      I thumbs up/second this comment to the max.

    • Jenny

      “sandpaper tampon”

      epic

      I’m going to reuse that phrase…

  • Candace

    From “Ridin” with ASAP Rocky:

    “He’s rich and I’m wishin’, um, he could be my Mr. Yum
    Delicious to the maximun
    Chew him up like bubble gum”

    I irrationally hate her for being confused about blowjobs.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jacobshanewalker Jacob Walker

      the fact that you think this was even referring to blowjobs makes me think you’re the one that is confused.

  • Rey Gun

    There is NOTHING irrational about hating on this one. She is the latest and also the greatest representation of what a dismal falsehood ‘pop’ music has become; i.e. she ‘emerged’ (paid to emerge) onto the scene with the least talent, fans, body of work, and credibility of any musician that I can remember. Add to this her subhuman understanding of feminism and readiness to serve it up for a paid-for wolf whistle and we have a full fledged disaster. “Lolita in the Hood”??? “Lana” you are in your mid twenties and Humbert Humbert, the child molester of literary fame would not touch you with a soiled diaper. Also that is super racist >.>

    Woe to us that we have to endure her and her large-chunk-of-the-internet-bandwidth-owning father’s disgusting run on our already wounded zeitgeist.

    • Norah

      bless this post

  • Lerie

    I have never heard her music and only know what she looks like (she’s in all those H&M ads now all over the place), but I just had to write to say that I loved the Jarvis Cocker quote.

  • http://fitorama.wordpress.com/ Lauren Lever

    ” I realize musical taste is highly subjective, but I think LDR sounds like a dying, feline Stevie Nicks with a penchant for baby talk trying to scat over the fake Portishead music they make for movies when they can’t get real Portishead music.” — wow very well put!!

    • kneelbeforetigers

      100% win right here. I hate how America now celebrates rich people with no talent, and expects all of us to go along with it. Fuck no… rebel people, rebel!

  • Annie

    Thank you. You have succeeded in expressing all of my hatred for Lana Del Ray.

  • fierceandcute

    very interesting. I don’t know LDR well (as you do), but I have always seen her as a feminist. I think her “retro sexy image” only emphasizes her victimhood; it’s obvious that sexist stereotype you’re talking about doesn’t make the protagonist happy at all. maybe she doesn’t sound mad at the guys who makes her suffer (as, for example, Emilie Autumn sounds), but she clearly shows that in this sexy-American-dream reality woman is treated like crap. Lolita reference is quite appropriate, since LDR stage persona is all about being a victim of a man / an unequal society.

    • jamiepeck

      I have gone back and forth about this, but I ultimately I don’t think she does enough to demonstrate that she recognizes these things as problems. If you’re going to engage with sexist ideas, I think you need to be clear what you are doing with them. But maybe I’ll change my mind when she comes out with something new. I like good surprises.

    • http://twitter.com/sklosko susanna

      OK, I think this is worth saying, even if it isn’t taken seriously. I think she is engaging in sexist ideas but not in a self-conscious, tongue-in-cheek, sarcastic way, and maybe that’s why it’s so easy to just write off as disgusting. I know this because at first I despised her too just from the song video games and how empty the speaker is. But when looking at the album as a whole it is so obvious that this is not some Katy Perry song where there is the conceit that the woman on stage is exactly the same person as the “voice” singing the song. It’s weird you bring up National Anthem and the ridiculous line “I’m your national anthem, god you’re so handsome, take me to the hamptons . . .” because it is so clear to me, because the lyrics are so wonderfully clunky, that this is somebody’s voice, not Lizzy Grant but somebody else. “He said to be cool but, I don’t know how yet . . . Umm, do you think you’d like to buy me lots of diamonds?” Come on! To continue with the pretentious Lolita references, Nabokov is not Humbert Humbert!

    • jamiepeck

      “not in a self-conscious, tongue-in-cheek, sarcastic way” I’m not sure there is any other way to critique sexist ideals you appear to embody, though? Think about how feminist artists have used the trappings of femininity in the past. That said: it’s very possible that you are right and this is what she is going for, to show the damage these archetypes do to women. But if so, the execution could be a lot better/clearer. And it would help me believe this if I’d ever heard her talk about it in the millions of interviews she has done…it’s not like she hasn’t had a chance to explain her art.

      That said, if you can find me a quote where she says this is what she’s trying to do, I’ll take it all back (or at least that part of my post) and give her props for trying, even if I find her execution flawed. I would be happy to do so.

    • http://twitter.com/sklosko susanna

      I think I remember her saying something about this in regards to Video Games, I would have to figure out where I saw it. What I mean by saying that it’s not sarcastic or tongue in cheek – she is serious as a heart attack, to the extent that the characters in her song are serious. I think it would be condescending for her to come up with a “message” about these songs which are completely honest, just in a really terrible way. I just think it goes without saying that the songs are about completely self-destructive women, I don’t understand why there has to be a “lesson”, they are what they are.

    • jamiepeck

      There has to be a lesson because an artist shouldn’t engage with anti-feminist ideas without making it clear what they’re trying to do with them, if they don’t want to end up looking like they’re cool with the status quo. But I guess we can agree to disagree.

    • http://twitter.com/sklosko susanna

      sure, I imagine could go back and forth on this until eternity but I do just want to say that the claim that all creative arts must contain some sort of disclaimer when presenting ideas (i don’t agree with this word, most popular music is not ideological, to me it is more about situations and feelings) puts you on the slope of some sort of nanny mentality. I mean, Johnny Cash shot a man in Reno just to watch die. is he wrong for not explaining to us that senseless murder is not okay? I mean I see where you are coming from, i wonder how all her teenage fans perceive these songs but ultimately i am fine with things being how they are and not always as they should be.

    • jamiepeck

      Of course successful art doesn’t need a disclaimer. But this is not that. I’m just saying that if she were to give us a disclaimer stating her intentions now, I’d at least give her points for trying. I give Lady Gaga and MIA props for trying to make coherent political statements even though they mostly fail! (They aren’t shy about talking about this stuff.) Link me to whatever it is she said and I’ll read it.

    • http://twitter.com/sklosko susanna

      hmm, i still don’t believe in disclaimers, and in general think that it’s not the place of artists to explain their work, here is an article i read awhile ago, where she talks about self-destructive behavior, http://thequietus.com/articles/07106-lana-del-rey-interview . she also talked somewhere about being an alcoholic and the exhilarating/terrifying feeling of being out of control. maybe you find it fake, or whatever, but these are things i can identify with, even if they are terrible. she still doesn’t explain the songs she has like “off to the races” which is really pathological, but to me those songs speak for themselves. but basically i think she seems like a thoughtful, kind person, who writes her own lyrics, who gets stage fright, and who does not flaunt her body like all these other pop stars, so i think most of the criticism she gets is a lot more sexist than any of her behavior. i like “common people” but it is basically a song about a man condescending to and chiding a woman.

    • lot

      Apparently in an interview she said “video games was about my happiest times with someone”

      What was the video game he was playing?

      It was World Of Warcraft. It’s actually an all-consuming game.

      Did you play it, too?

      He… Well, he wouldn’t let me.

      What was his character?

      I think he played as a monster. You can’t really see the character when you’re in the game.

  • http://twitter.com/sklosko susanna

    yes, something here is very bad for women. but it is not lana del rey.

  • plasticlain

    A couple of years ago, I was thinking about all the pop stars/movie stars I irrationally hate and realized that most of them are female. It was a shitty realization, because now I can’t see these kind of articles without feeling a little uncomfortable and sorry for the person on the receiving end, even when her music/image sucks to high heaven.

    Because as annoyingly anti-feminist, money-worshipping and lyrically stupid as Lana Del Rey’s discography is, I can’t say with 100% conviction that it is any more cringe-worthy than, for instance, any song Mike Posner puts out. Yet, I haven’t been able to find a two-page diatribe against Posner anywhere.

    • jamiepeck

      Don’t worry, I hate plenty of male musicians too!

  • mm

    You know, I was one of the people who thought you were pretty out of line and jealous-sounding with all of the irrational LDR hate. However, now that you’ve actually explained it I don’t think you’re jealous anymore. I don’t irrationally or rationally hate her, although I don’t listen to her at all. She’s just there, being sort of lame, but not bothering me. Lena Dunham, though…..hate. hate. hate. hate. hate. I know y’all at The Gloss love her but there is just SOMETHING about her that makes me want to scream. Can’t handle it.

    • jamiepeck

      Glad to have made a believer out of you. And FTR, I like some things about Lena and dislike others. I’d like her a lot more if she checked her privilege once in a while. But I do think her show is very funny.

  • Cate

    I agree with everyone else in saying that your hatred of LDR really, really is not even somewhat irrational.

  • Roberto

    Unlike all of you girls, she is BEAUTIFUL.
    Jealous much ???

  • Roberto

    Unlike most of you, she is BEAUTIFUL.
    Jealous much??

    • kneelbeforetigers

      So lame, you had to post it twice. Thanks, dude!

  • Nuni

    i agree. she seems so fake.

  • Larissa

    Yes. Everything in this article is one big Yes. She’s mashing together random imagery, themes, and “statements”…without actually making a real statement. it’s anti-art. it’s an insincere sham. So are a ton of other people, but at least they’re not pretending. Props to Katy Perry for that, she outright says she’s selling candy fluff, and I respect that. Also, Lana Del Rey is fucking terrible live. If you’re going to have awful content, at least make it sound good, girl!

  • Jay

    You’ve completely missed the point of LDR. The point is that she is inauthentic, she is an empty signifier and that is precisely what makes her so amazingly subversive. The narrative of Born to Die is deliberately disjointed and fragmented underneath the veneer of daddy issues and so on. She’s the ironic embodiment of all that you take issue with–gender, class etc–are performative. Look deeper, for God’s sake.

    • Jay

      She’s the ironic embodiment of the performativity of gender and class etc etc.*

    • http://www.facebook.com/jacobshanewalker Jacob Walker

      this seems to be a recurring theme with people that are repulsed by LDR. They take things at completely face value. I’m sorry, but she isn’t Katy Perry, you have to look deeper into the lyrics like you would actual poetry and analyze them.

    • lot

      Big Bad Wolf
      Lana Del Rey

      I told you not to go into the woods,
      I told you that he wasn’t any good.
      I told you not to go into the woods,
      I told you that he wasn’t any good.
      I’ll take the wrong PATH,I think I’ll go a little off track.
      And now there’s no way back,
      YOU took all the apples that I had.
      But I heart you and I wanna be YOUR girl.
      I heart you and I know you’ll rock my WORLD.
      ‘Cause you rock, rock, rock, rock, rock
      You know that I want what YOU got.
      You rock, rock, rock, rock, rock
      Big bad WOLF come on and eat me up, up, up.
      (I told you not to go into the woods)

      Big, bad, naughty rock star
      Your claws are shining bright in the dark.
      Lifting up my little red skirt,
      I know you’ll leave me here in the dirt.
      But I heart you, and I wanna be YOUR girl
      I heart you, so come back and rock my WORLD!
      Cause you rock, rock, rock, rock, rock
      You know that I want what YOU got.
      You rock, rock, rock, rock, rock
      Big bad WOLF come on and eat me up, up, up.

      (I told you not to go into the woods)
      Life is like, like a little game,
      That we like to play, just for fun, just for fun
      Yeah, we take nothing seriously, nothing’s wrong, make me run, all night long.
      Hide and seek is how you play with me,
      Oh, you’re tempting me, just for fun, just for fun.
      I hear you calling me over city streets, through the trees, mess with me, then you’ll leave.
      Oh, be still my heart, escaping in your cherry red car.
      ‘Cause you rock, rock, rock, rock, rock
      You know that I want what YOU got.
      You rock, rock, rock, rock, rock
      Big bad WOLF come on and eat me up, up, up.

    • someone

      That song is terrible, a long with a couple of others, but all in all most of her music means something.

    • http://www.facebook.com/caitlin.lewellen Caitlin Lewellen

      Cause you know how hipsters love their irony *sigh*

  • Nalim

    Well just because her father is rich doesn’t mean she was. FYI she actually lived in a trailer park for a few years before she made it big. And Lolita is her favorite book which is why she has so many references to it in her songs…..but hey, at least you have reasons for why you dislike her

    • lot

      She didn’t live in a trailer park for a few years. She used this story in response to questions about her plastic surgery, exclaiming how she could not possibly afford surgery as she lived in a trailer park for years. In another interview she changes the time she lived there to a few months. She also had plenty of money as in another interview she speaks of how she at that time bought herself out of her record deal estimated to be worth 90k so lying about living in a trailer park was pointless. The only evidence of her having lived in a trailer park is an interview she construted with Index mag where she took them to a trailer park she ‘said’ she used to live in and a photo shoot that was done at the trailer park, that’s a PR stunt. But to completely blow the trailer park story right out – she was apparently studying at uni at the time she claims she lived in the trailer park and it would have taken her a 200 mile journey everyday to make it to her uni and back to the trailer park, oh and I shouldn’t forget that there are actually photos and video footage of Lizzy and her sister chuck in their lovely New York apartment, most probably paid for by their father as they were both students at the time. It was a PR hipster stunt that only idiots still believe.

    • someone

      For someone who doesn’t like her you sure know A LOT about her…

    • A person

      Umm yes she did live in a trailer park!! Please check your facts and she didn’t have plastic surgery. I don’t believe that just because she said it. People can look like that its not impossible. And many peoples features change over time! Some people are so fucking ignorant.

    • me

      Hahaha I love how you said ‘some people are so fucking ignorant’ when you clearly fall into that category. Have you even looked at photos of her before? There is a major difference! Yes her features changed over time but thats only because she done something to them, definitely NOT a natural change LOL.

  • JustAQuickNote

    Only posting because Lolita is a favorite novel of mine, It’s not all about the poor innocent child being ruined by the scary old man. She is spectacularly seductive and a very “all american” girl, with her movie magazines and spoiled petulance. Lolita was the one who actually initiated, first asking for a kiss and jokingly saying her mother would be so mad if she found out they were lovers, then worse later on. The reason the novel is so powerful is because it can make you sympathize with a pedophile despite your better judgement.

    • lot

      Firstly you need to read the book again, it was rape by a paedophile the paedophile admits this in the book and no I don’t sympathize with the paedophile, a person who rapes a child doesn’t need sympathy they need mental help. You are worrying, the book is about a 12 year old girl and a paedophile and purely from the perspective of the paedophile not the 12 year old girl who has no voice in the book.

    • Noni

      I can not believe people are so misguided about this work.

  • Paul Barr

    You are completely interpreting it wrong and taking her way too seriously. You seem like (a probably ugly) high school nobody who thinks they are highly intellegent and is getting revenge on the world that hated them by writing sarcastic “I’m better than everyone” toned articles. Go fuck yourself.

  • Guest

    I think her persona is meant as an ironic statement more so than a literal one. So… I refute your argument about her ideal “American dream beauty myth” persona.

  • Guest

    I think her persona is meant as an ironic statement more so than a
    literal one. So… I disagree with your argument about her ideal “American
    dream beauty myth” persona.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jacobshanewalker Jacob Walker

    Not everyone and everything has to have a political message. I am one of the most political people I know, and I actually enjoy someone genuinely being themselves and not worrying what people think or the larger implications of something. It’s nice to be able to turn the fighting part of your brain off and enjoy some genuine artistic expression. Do you know why her songs don’t make sense to you? Why you’re not sure if her songs agree with your particular political/societal agenda? Because they might not! Surprise surprise! Lana Del Rey creates music that is evocative of past emotions for some people. It doesn’t have an agenda. It is a snapshot of life as she sees it, and invalidating that snapshot because it doesn’t completely mesh with your predetermined political views is ridiculously dismissive. Someone admitting that they like to rely on a man, and that they like to be submissive to men in their relationship is just another feminist point of view. Having the courage to admit that you want a man in your life and that you want to rely on him and that you can still be your own person with your own goals could be the highest form of feminism. Being able to keep yourself intact while fulfilling that urge/need/want denotes a stronger person that someone who dislikes men and the idea of being a devoted lover in a relationship. Women need to stop this whole game of either you’re helping advance feminism or you’re not. Some people can be neutral, and just for a little while, express something as simple as feelings, and desires. That is the root nature of art and that’s what Lana Del Rey’s music is.

    • lot

      It really doesn’t surprise me you are a man – being a feminist doesn’t mean you hate men and it doesn’t mean as you put it ” you like to be submissive to men in their relationship” the problem is dealing with sexist men!! haven’t you worked that out. It really pisses me off that a man like you can sit there and type a few pondered words on the subject when it’s been going on for how many fucking years. “Having the courage to admit that you want a man in your life and that
      you want to rely on him and that you can still be your own person with
      your own goals could be the highest form of feminism” Can you believe you just said that, are you from the 1800′s? In fact, a man using himself as an example towards other men can probably make more impact than a woman can!! You just failed at that, miserably.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jacobshanewalker Jacob Walker

      What I was saying simply, is that many women don’t view a relationship as a combative thing, that people naturally go into roles in some relationships, and if that’s what makes women happy they shouldn’t be ostracized by the feminist movement for that. Relationships make many women, AND men happy. Just because a woman would act like Lana Del Rey in her videos in a relationship doesn’t mean she is dopey, or stupid, or buying in to male supremacy. She is keeping her feminity and flaunting it. That has nothing to do with her independence, or her capacity to accomplish things outside of the romantic sphere.
      Also, simply saying that my views are from the 1800s in an angry word vomit without backing things up doesn’t help me understand feminism any more. I would like to learn more, and I admit I probably don’t know as much as I should, but the criticism of Lana Del Rey seems anti-feminist to me, as she is looked down upon for expressing her sexuality. If she likes to be submissive because that turns her on, she should be able to express that, without fear of people condemning her. The fact that she can do that while still being successful and in control of her own life is a testament to female strength.

    • someone

      Love this whole post.

    • mandy f

      “Someone admitting that they like to rely on a man, and that they like to be submissive to men in their relationship is just another feminist point of view.” Submissive in what way- letting him do the bulk of the word? Admitting “you want to rely on him” is no more empowering than someone saying they’d like to live in their parents’ basement off their income for the next ten years. Also, you say submissive in a sexual sense in a later post, which is different than the “meekly obedient or passive” definition of generally being passive.

    • italia

      I love your comment!

  • Tony

    i dont understand what is your problem america…. in europe is rare to find someone who say “i dont like lana del rey” and now america come and say “i hate her because she is pretty and her music is not about black n yellow” is just stupid…
    and your post is a beautiful piece of shit too you write “lolita victim of rape” i already read the book and it was conceptual, but it is not a surprise to me someone that work on a site called “the gloss” only could be or very stupid or a bitch…

    • lot

      You need to read the book again as it was not fucking consensual, the fact you think that is very worrying!

    • Noni

      Take it from someone who is more familiar with the work of Nabokov. First, we never hear from Dolores Haze’s perspective. Secondly, many times in the book Humbert controls who she socialized with, what her cultural preoccupation would be, and even killed her mother. If she wanted to go out with her friends, she had to give him some sort of sexual service in return. Thirdly, in an interview about Humbert, this is what Nabokov had to say, “He (Humbert) is a hateful person, a vain and cruel wretch who only manages to appear touching.” He was actually disturbed that people put more credit to Humbert’s character as opposed to his writing style and use of irony and allusions. Finally, she was FUCKING TWELVE! Believe it or not, even back in the rapetastic 50′s, that was considered rape

    • http://www.facebook.com/caitlin.lewellen Caitlin Lewellen

      I don’t hate her cause she’s pretty. In fact, I love pretty people. They give me something to stare at. I hate her because she sounds like a washed out lounge singer live, and thinks her lyrics are like Shakespeare’s golden shits, and don’t get me started on what she did to Leonard Cohen. Also Hate does not equal jealousy, and wtf, “black and yellow”?

  • ed

    i loved all that pseudo intellectual look of your article, basically you’re an hipster. 80% of the things you said are senseless or stupid.

    about your interpretation of lolita….. was so dump that i laugh while reading it the reason why lolita is so present on her musics is because the young free and sexy look of lolita inspire her, lolita was not a “child rape victim” it was conceptual, actualy she kind of take on him ,lolita is the one who “gotta taste for mans who are older”.

    other stupid shit you say is she father is rich so shes a bitch, just because she father is rich that means she cant have her own money, that shows how stupid you are.

    youre interpretation of her musics is stupid too, born to die is about her alcool adiction not about a “bad man” carmen is about the bad side of the fame “lolita” is about lolita, “video games” is how love is a video game “without you” is about god the only song about “bad mens” is “blue jeans” youre just too retarded to can understand the meaning behind what can look like a pretty love song

    You seem like (a probably ugly) high school nobody who thinks they are highly intellegent and is getting revenge on the world that hated them by writing sarcastic “I’m better than everyone” toned articles. Go fuck yourself.

    with love from London

    • ed

      her father, sorry for the mistake

    • lot

      You need to understand what hipster means for a start, it is as always has been used since the 50′s to describe rich kids who like to dress up and play poor, Lana is a hipster. Lolita was raped in the Novel it was not consensual. It really pisses me off how many men seem to see the situation and a 12 year old girl who sexually taunted a vulnerable old man. Several times, Humbert begs the reader to understand that he is not proud of his rape of Lolita, but is filled with remorse and near the end of the novel, Humbert accuses himself of rape, Lolita has no voice in this tale of a paedophile, which you seem to have interpreted as consensual sex between an old man and a 12 year old! With a view point like yours you just come across like a potential paedophile or an idiot who can not understand what he is reading.

  • lot

    My feelings exactly, it’s amusing how all the males that respond to this in support of Lizzy Grant believe only ugly women could have this opinion because they are jealous. Still you got to give it to her she really has a lot of sexist men in awe of her sexist little act, what that actually does for her as a woman I’m not entirely sure.

  • lolita lost in the hood bwaaaa

    I haven’t had anything done at all

    • Mr. Me

      Who the fuck cares? I can name you plenty of people who have had plastic surgery done. For example, Blake Lively. :)

  • Iddie

    The feminist and political reasons are absurd, come on’. So what, now everyone has to go against the stereotyped heels, etc — just because of feminism. What if that’s what someone is drawn to, don’t they have a choice? Also, the imagery is similar to poetry…the Jack Kerouac kind. It’s vulgar but extremely visual and emotes something (it’s not mean to be taken literally — it’s metaphorical. It is unlike an editorial, just look at the Prada ads and you’ll see the Lolita. She is just mixing various aesthetics and references. Also, if you’re going to hate on someone for that, you might as well get on Nicki Minaj, because at least Lana is mixing mediums and is interesting.

  • Mr Me

    Everyone has their opinions on the real world views, such as you all, and guess what, people? The American Dream is where you have freedom of speech, where you can promote your music and style any way you want. She’s rich and famous, you’re not, what is there to hate? I love her music, I love her style. Maybe there’s another message being put out there by Lana Del Rey? Maybe how she WISHES America was back to the way it was before we weren’t as limited. This is MY opinion and she has HER own opinions, so will I get bashed and get a forum because I have my own personality? I’m sure there would be forums on who ever wrote this article about how they hate and how stupid your style is and how they wish you wouldn’t throw yourself out there. Yes, some things are in your face, but what musical artist DOESN’T have atleast one thing hat piss you off? Ignorance put aside, Lana Del Rey is talented, she has a good voice and she writes her own lyrics, not to mention she has wrote other peoples lyrics as well. I could sit here and rant all the good things that she has down that would tackle your bashing and hating, making it look like a complete ignorance contest. But, as Lana Del Rey was asked what she would say to the haters, “I would say nothing.” So maybe I should just turn the other cheek, “sand and paper tampon” haters.

    • someone

      “Maybe how she WISHES America was back to the way it was before we weren’t as limited” this is actually exactly it. Near the end of her Ride video, she says something to do the extent how she wishes America was how it used to be, and I completely agree. I can’t tell if her whole “gangsta” image is ironic or not but she clearly loves old Americana and Marilyn, Elvis, etc.

  • ana

    just to clarify, you wrote this article to explain your irrational hate for lana?

  • Misha Adams

    I like her music and she seems nice, but I do sense she’s a little fake…..

  • http://twitter.com/fayeparedes Faye

    Not irrational all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=514275071 Dan MacDonald

    whatever. listen to her cover of Leonard Cohen’s CHelsea Hotel no. 2 – effin brilliant. her production is bang on, so is her imagery. people just love to bitch about the “dumb chick” – meanwhile – you’re completely looking past her talent. It’s undeniable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/melissa.alberts.75 Melissa Alberts

    Oh my word. After reading this, I want to be your new best friend!

  • Charlie

    So ironic, you are one more usual jealous person, who can’t do anything good just shit. SHAME YOURSELF.
    i’m gay and like her songs and i support feminism. And it’s not your business how smell her pussy. LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/isakechaos Isake Stark

    Maybe she should try to not lie and then people would like her. Im not even talking about the name changes or plastic surgery who gives a fuck. Im talking about acting likes shes some poor soul who grew up in a trailer park, when her father is one of the biggest names in the domain name industry. Also she writes music like Brick from the movie Anchorman. Just naming shit in a room. You in a white shirt me wearing blue jeans, I love lamp.

  • guest

    This article gave me aids. It’s so inaccurate. I mean seriously that’s the same as saying I hate Justin Bieber cause he’s not part of the illuminati. wtf.

  • ak

    LOL! I love how you ended the article. I swear, if you dare to say you don’t care for something, people always say you’re jealous-I mean, have they never just not liked something simply because it wasn’t for them? Of course they have, but if it comes to someone else disliking something they like, then it’s jealousy all of a sudden. Or even dumber, ‘hater’s gonna hate!’ (btw, I don’t even get the point of that one, as I don’t think one person in the history of mankind has ever been told that & been like, ‘Gee, they sure told me!’. But anyway, to many people, she can do no wrong. But I totally agree with you-I think it’s just too much, the whole head to toe vintage with the grainy videos that attempt to look all ‘film noir’,& then worst of all pretending to have been poor-I mean, I really think had she just owned it, like you were saying, people would like her better. I don’t see why she couldn’t just be like, ‘yeah, my lips are fake & my dad was rich-big deal.’ Lying about it, & then targeting the indie scene-just doesn’t work. But as I said, to her fans, she can do no wrong, & they’ll spend hours having ridiculous discussions (a.k.a. contests on who can sound the most pretentious) on the symbolism and imagery and the ‘cinematic genius’ of her videos that in reality are about as deep as a puddle. I mean, I have to wonder if maybe she just sits there & is like, ‘hey, let’s just shoot a video that makes no sense or uses the most cliche overdone symbolism possible, shoot it in grainy film, put random closeups of flowers opening & whatnot & listen to all the wannable artsy kids discuss how meaningful it is just to get a laugh’.

  • Tori

    Why don’t you guys just not listen to her music? It could be that easy. Why spend so much time and energy dissecting the ways in which you don’t care for her persona and/or music? Maybe she reflects the society of our own making, and that is what is so upsetting. As they say in the hood… Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

  • Carolina21

    honestly im a huge Lana Del Rey fan and i get your point, im not gonna lie and say that she is the best singer out there, but hey at least she writes her own songs and the message that she gives about being all about money it is haha i mean i work so hard to get money so i can have a decent life, and every girl wants beauty, diamonds and to be forever young. im not saying that you gotta love her but she makes sense to me

  • sasha

    I hate Lana from all my heart

  • Jamal

    “The American Dream is a Myth”… What are you talking about??? What kind of crazy liberal website is this? I came to this country with literally $10 and made someone of myself. If you educate yourself, work hard, and don’t give up you will prosper.

  • Italia

    You guys should be hating on Rihanna. Lana in my opinion has crazy talent . Her voice is soothing to me. You don’t stop listening to music just because of the persons personal life. If you like the song you like it. There should be no disecting . I like her , she’s different.

  • Ana

    thank you thank you thank you THANK YOU. I have been saying all of this stuff the entire time LDR’s been around, but every time i speak about it i get a lot of hate for it. but your article shows me i’m not alone! i also think it’s unfair how her daddy paid for her whole career when she obviously doesn’t deserve it and there are far more better artists out there struggling to make it. thank you for this article.

  • powaqa quovmi

    waittttt! did no one realize she is a fucking RACIST? who wears a headdress and holds a gun to their head while drinking whiskey. didn’t that set off alarms in anyone elses head? dishonoring something sacred while making terrible music at the same time. i want to deflate her lips.