Artist Creates Barbie With Measurements Of Average 19-Year-Old Girl


So it’s 2013, and the fight for a more realistic looking Barbie doll has ended in a bit of a stalemate. Numerous studies have been released showing that Barbie does, in fact, make girls as young as five wish they were thinner, and numerous more developmentally healthy options abound. But the old gal remains popular, and will always have her defenders.

Since the current stalemate consists of the feminists being right and Mattel doing nothing about it, it’s still fun and at least vaguely relevant to imagine what Barbie would look like if she weren’t so dang Mannerist. The latest iteration of this comes from artist Nickolay Lamm, who used 3D printing technology to create a Barbie doll with the same proportions as the average 19-year-old girl. And guess what? She’s still conventionally attractive, she just looks more like a real person and less like a spindly, pointy-toed nightmare creature. Don’t worry, she’s still thin, white and blonde. She just has thighs and a butt now. And feet that would not snap if a person with her dimensions tried to walk on them:





“My last Barbie project got a lot of criticism because Barbie is just a toy,” said Lamm, referring to his recent makeup-less Barbie. “People argue that a toy can’t do any harm. [Note: it can, demonstrably.] However, if we criticize skinny models [Note: or rather, the fashion industry's privileging of one body type over all others], we should at least be open to the possibility that Barbie may negatively influence young girls as well…So, if there’s even a small chance of Barbie in its present form negatively influencing girls, and if Barbie looks good as an average sized woman in America. What’s stopping Mattel from making one?”

What indeed? Of course, like I said before, the “more realistic Barbie” is still thin, young, and white, and it would be good to get some other models of beauty into the mix. But more realistic proportions would be a nice start.

(Via The Daily Mail)

Photos: Nickolay Lamm

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    • grammateen

      I really like Lamm’s newest creation. She is still attractive, but just more like a real person. Before I looked at the picture, I figured she would be even . . . stockier, yeah, that’s it. But if Mattel made Barbie II, I’d buy her for my 3 granddaughters!

      • Minoa

        Would you also get your granddaughter this doll if it was “even stockier”? If so, would you also get a toy hamburger and toy super-sized fries as accessories? That would be realistic, too.

      • DenverMom

        Jeez, Minoa, Bitchy, much? The second barbie is more realistic, but still not realistic. The second barbie is still a body that is unattainable to many young girls. Maybe you should relax and eat some real french fries or a real hamburger. Remember what its like being human with flaws and, gasp! curves!

      • feex3

        No, the second Barbie is a bit overweight.

      • wrencis

        The point of the article is that the second image is not overweight. It depicts an average 19-year-old.

        “The latest iteration of this comes from artist Nickolay Lamm, who used 3D printing technology to create a Barbie doll with the same proportions as the average 19-year-old girl.”
        Read more:

      • Hello

        The second barbie is no less than a size 14 and is overweight for sure, just because the average is fat doesn’t make her skinny.

      • AjB

        I don’t think the second Barbie is OVERweight but i agree that she is larger than the average 19 year old wants to be and often is. The second barbie looks a healthy weight but because of the way models and other people we see with other body types look we think that it is overweight when it is just normal.
        Some people just have that body shape.

      • Minoa

        I was just making the point that it is very unlikely that many people, even Grammateen, would buy “even stockier” dolls for their kids and grandkids. First, our natural impulse is not to give our kids toys that imply it’s a good thing to be obese. Second, we want the toys to be played with. If girls have two choices—an athletic teen doll and an obese teen doll—which do you think they will pick? Which do you think they will want to show off to their friends?

      • James Synkgar

        why do fat people call their rolls curves?

      • KathleenCat

        Well, a roll is, technically, a curved shape. So it is accurate.

        Now I suppose you’ll call me fat again, even though what I said is not “pro-fat” and you have no reason from my picture to believe I am fat.

        And yes, it is a picture of me- not a cartoon as you hide behind.

        Though it hardly matters, I am currently above my ideal weight, but still slightly smaller than the average American woman.

      • James Synkgar

        thats a specious argument. the meaning of the word is understood. to argue from a technicaility does NOT serve the truth it just serves people who lie about themselves.

        btw whats this bullshit about “oh and now you’ll call me fat” bullshit? do you think preempting what i say somehow dilutes reality?
        If i had said “and now ill get a comment from a snarky bitter fat girl” would you have stfu instead?

        As for having A pic? it’s really irrelevant to topic. This isnt about me, or even you. It’s about reality.. though for the record posting a pic thats a very attempt to make you look halfway decent, while bitching at me for not posting one is kind of ironic.

      • KathleenCat

        Well, I’m still not fat.

        And you called me “fatass” above.
        That’s why I said that about calling me fat.
        I don’t think I’m diluting reality or what-ev-er the hell you are saying.

        What I meant was pretty clear and simple, I think.

    • Jessica

      Lamm’s Barbie makes the original Barbie look like a monster with her giant head and spindly neck. I vote for Lamm’s Barbie!!

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    • Samantha

      The correctly-proportioned doll is so cool!

      I wish Barbie could get the body thing right, because the dolls have the potential to be really pro-woman. My huge collection of Barbies was really helpful in building my imagination and in learning about new careers and cultures. Granted, I grew up in a household where my parents encouraged not only blond Barbie, but her black counterpart, as well as the Barbies of the world collection and loads of different Barbie career dolls. And I liked making and re-purposing clothes for my dolls, which helped me learn some pretty helpful mending skills. Point is, I have very fond memories of Barbie, and it makes me sad that Mattel won’t give on this single issue, which would help make Barbie better.

      • Minoa

        I’ve seen “more realistic” dolls come and go on the market. Barbie has outlasted them all. If Mattel were to change Barbie, chances are that sales would drop and the line would be eventually discontinued. That would be unfortunate, as Barbie encourages creative play. It is far better that girls have experiences like you did, rather than get bored with dolls and get enticed into playing video games all day.

      • KathleenCat

        I guess they just need as someone else mentioned below, to have some friends or family in a different shape, but keep Barbie as she is.
        I’m sure one big reason Barbie stays popular is simply that she is the standard. Off-brands follow the same shape so clothes are interchangeable.
        That’s why an alternate doll doesn’t succeed in part, because all the clothes are made for Barbie or Barbie clones. A doll with another shape would be limited in clothing options. I’d have had a fit as a kid if I had a doll that couldn’t wear the clothes my friends’ dolls had!

      • Melanie Stayer

        Other lines have failed simply because they are not Barbie. People know the name, and if a girl asks for a certain one, and she gets a knockoff, of course she’s going to be disappointed. Barbies have already changed over the years – from hard plastic into rubbery plastic, from short hair to long, from white to black – and the company is still doing well. They could do even better if they offered dolls that have more realistic figures – something girls will not be futilely killing themselves to attain.

      • ebneila

        Dolls are from a time when kids had their own imaginations. Today, video games have placed imagination with programmed agendas where death is glorified. The most popular video games are geared toward violence and apathy. The only creativity comes to play in methods of inflicting death and pain. Now, people wonder why kids are shooting other school children and teachers in cold blood. Video games are leading the next generation into lawless, mindless killers

      • KathleenCat

        The only issue I have is the words “correctly-proportioned”. Average proportions are just that- average.

        But everything else, yes.

      • Eva Rinaldi

        I believe this meant “correctly proportioned” as in “proportioned like a human being” considering that a scaled up woman with the proportions of a barbie doll would be unable to walk. But I get what you are saying.

        I personally would like to see more variety in barbies as well, not just minority barbies but a variety of face shapes and Caucasian skin and hair colors as well. I’d adore seeing different body types proportioned from real women, but the problem with that would be making clothes for dolls interchangeable- I remember being super annoyed when my different dolls couldn’t wear the same clothes as a kid.

      • spideyismydaddy

        I had many kinds of dolls, all shapes and sizes. I learned to sew clothes for them! Barbie outfits were very limited and didn’t have an amazon costume ; ]

      • Samantha

        Ah, I wasn’t meaning to offend. I just meant “proportioned like a human instead of a Guillermo Del Toro monster.”

      • James Synkgar

        sorry fatass, it is correctly proportioned.
        fat is not correct its an animal thats not eating right, its a deviation from normal.
        its bad.

      • KathleenCat

        Why the hell are you calling me a “fatass” for objecting to calling the heavier doll “correctly proportioned”?

        The most reasonable misinterpretation of my comment would be thinking I meant the the heavier-looking doll is “incorrect” and the original is “correct”.

        Not what you came up with.

        And fat really is nature’s way of storing energy for future use.

        But you go ahead and be wrong. It’s kind of amusing.

      • James Synkgar

        aw how cute sarcasm from dumb people.

        yes- fat is how “nature” stores energy. But humans are not raccoon or bears, our bodies are NOT meant to store excess amounts of “energy”, thats why obesity has so many health problems associated with it.

        But you knew that, you just hope when you say retarded dishonest bullshit, no one realizes thats what it is and lets it go.

        THAT’S amusing.

      • KathleenCat

        First, I am back here a year later because I got an upvote and was refreshing my memory what this was all about.

        Then I saw your… whatever it is.

        You could have had a point if we were talking about actual obesity.
        We aren’t.
        Just fat storage in general. Maybe more than the bare minimum, but not obesity.
        But calling me the ‘r’ word shows where your mentality is anyway.
        Technically not worth my time, but you did accuse me of dishonesty, when I was as genuine as can be, so, there.
        You got a response.
        Go you.
        I bet you feel so important.

    • Holly

      She looks much more fun to dress! Clothes would look great on her.

    • Natalie

      I honestly don’t think I realized how little of a butt Barbie had until this. It’s shocking.

    • Joy Rose

      Most people don’t know this, but Barbie was created to be clothed. Since fabric appears to be so much thicker on a small scale, Barbie was designed so that, when fully clothed, she appeared to have measurements of 38-26-34. A bit idealistic, perhaps, but certainly not unreasonable.

      • Minoa

        Good point. Showing them in a bikini overly emphasizes body type. It would be more helpful to also see side-by-side pictures comparing them in a dress and casual slacks.

      • Britney Robinson

        Interesting. Except for the boobs me and barbie have similar mesurments only I’m a 24 inch waist. 34-24-34. So whats realistic now? I think it is stupid to make a “realistic” barbies, lots of girls I know look like barbie body wise.

      • spideyismydaddy

        You make an interesting point that may help with understanding how Barbie contributes to the unrealistic body image problem. Clothes add bulk, figures change how clothes fit. Barbie is made for her clothes. We real women need clothes made for our bodies but fashion designers don’t like to do that. It matters when fashion is designed for a body that you don’t have. Make a dress designed for a slight and tall figure bigger doesn’t make the clothing fall right or dress the larger or shorter figure well.The styles that would look good on Barbie 2 would not look as good on Barbie 1 and vice versa.

      • Joy Rose

        See, now, this is why I’m increasingly sewing my own clothing…

        Almost anybody can wear almost any style if it’s actually made to their size. Most of the “style looks bad” comes from trying to adapt to one-size-fits-all clothing even when it’s individually sized.

        Basically, a pencil skirt actually looks fine on me IF and only IF it is made for hips that are slightly over twelve inches wider than the waist.

    • Darth nataS

      Fat Barbie

    • A

      Are we complaining about Barbie’s measurements now? Maybe girls’ negative body image comes from all the fat and sugar they eat and not Barbie? Or the fact that they go outside only if the ice cream truck passes by. How did girls in the 60s play with thin Barbie’s without destroying their psychies and crying themselves to sleep? Maybe because they didn’t stuff their faces with junk food and moved their butts every now and then. I hope Mattel keeps the traditional Barbie. What a stupid world 2013 is. #Firstworldproblems

      • ohwell

        You should probably kill yourself.

      • Cher

        You should eat less

      • Eric Schulz

        2013 isn’t a world…

      • meteor_echo

        Surprise surprise – “hashtag first world problems” are still problems. But, of course, how can somebody talk about making new, more helpful toys for kids when there are, for example, starving children in Africa? Right?
        No, I can tell you where lousy self-esteem comes from. It comes from only seeing pretty, thin girls in magazines, seeing ultra-thinness and perfection being praised on TV and in real life, and yes – only seeing dolls and figures that are thin – never the body type you are. As for your question – the 60s just had a different set of beauty standards, which was just as actively pushed onto women back then as its modern counterpart is now.
        So take a stadium full of seats and educate yourself.

    • A

      Boy when I was growing up that Wolverine action figure had ridiculous arms and unbelievably wide shoulders. Should my self esteem be shattered because I’ll never have those features? Should I take anabolic steroids to get them and then blame the toy for my problems? Or should I just accept that it has exaggerated features because IT’S A TOY!! The chick in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? had unreal proportions, maybe we should re-animate a classic movie to appease a few whiners? It never fails to amaze me what people complain about with each passing year.

    • Eileen

      “Realistic” Barbie looks pretty miserable, but otherwise is pretty cute. (Although was I the only one who was shocked to learn how big the “average” nineteen-year-old’s waist is? Apparently it’s like 34 inches, and 35 inches is supposed to be the benchmark for unhealthily large) Still, I liked my stupidly proportioned Barbies, and I think part of why they’re fun is they don’t look like real people but have exaggerated adult bodies (sans genitals, of course – but putting nipples and a vulva on Barbies never seems to come up).

      • KathleenCat

        You are not the only one to be shocked at that measurement being average for women so young. If it were for those over 35 or 40, I’d expect it.
        Miserable? You mean in the top photo I guess. I think she just looks bored.

      • Britney Robinson

        I think that is crazy, not every girl is average. If you make average barbie then what happens to the girls with 24,25,26 inch waists? It is stupid. Not every little girl is big or healthy. I was always tiny, I wore clothes for five years before I grew out of them. Not because I didn’t eat or starved myself I was just naturally skinny.

    • vmk

      I’d do ‘er.

    • Jessica Orosco

      I love the fact that Lamm created a full figured Barbie she is now realistic with all the thin is beautiful crap on tv now a days its nice to see a Barbie with a real body I grow up with the old Barbie and it just made me and my friends want to look just like her we always talked about making ourselves look just like her by any means necessary they are still trying I gave up now my focus is to show my daughter she don’t have to look like Barbie to be beautiful and sexy that she is already both just the way she is so I agree there should be more plus size Barbies.

      • Psyllicon

        Had you considered using any punctuation?

      • Britney Robinson

        Lol you really wanted to be a doll? At five I thought barbie was pretty unrealistic. Its a frickin doll. ANd being plus size isn’t something someone should achieve to be.

    • HLR

      If they really wanted to make it realistic, they should also include an “average” personality for her. If she is caring and honest and comfortable in her own skin, then that serves as an insult to all the “average” girls out there that are emotionally f-ed up, manipulative, and insecure. Why can’t we just celebrate them for what they are?

      • Holly

        You’re really showing your emotional stability here.

      • HLR

        Thanks for the response, Holly. It seems like you had some sort of idea regarding the point I was trying to make. Could you please explain it to me? My initial comment seems somewhat ironic in some sort of philosophical way, but I wasn’t really clear what the message was.

        I think maybe I’m trying to point out that there is kind of a strange backwards over-prioritization on physical beauty in these “celebrate them for what they look like, even if it’s not all that special” messages.

        Or maybe I’m making the point that celebrating average-ness is a little bit ridiculous unless we are, as a species, at a stage of unparalleled self-satisfaction.


        I think the point actually is that although we often worry a great deal about how “average” girls see themselves, it would seem many of them are actually astutely well aware of how desirable they are to many of the sad and lonely boys/men that surround them. They are told they are beautiful a million times in this life, and yet insecurity and self-examination often seems to destroy them. The message of “you’re pretty much average and that’s beautiful” doesn’t seem to really be elevating us culturally to a better place. A better message might be to measure your special-ness by the positive role you can actually play in other people’s lives.

        I don’t know… I’m frankly surprised 8 people voted this comment up.

      • James Synkgar

        holly you;re really showing your emotional stability by posting snarky condescending remarks.

    • DRJ

      The realistic one is obviously cuter than the original barbie, but it’s all kind of a false premise. It’s well-established that average-ness is, in fact, an extremely attractive quality. If this “average” girl were to exist in real life, she would be among the more attractive girls in any group – as she has cute facial features and is completely devoid of anything in particular to be self-conscious about.

      I feel like the vast majority of girls could look at this “average” girl and feel as though they are quite unattractive in comparison. A more realistic “average” doll would be one with at least one or two features that might make one feel particularly unappealing. If they made a doll like that, then people might be less inclined to still think it’s “cute enough”, perhaps..? I wonder…

      • Bob

        Maybe reading comprehension isn’t one of your best skills but the article clearly stated that the Barbie was created with the same proportions as a 19 yr old girl, it does not represent the average 19 yr old girl in any other way..

      • Hello

        The “realistic” one is fat

    • Sherm

      Awesome work. As a dude, I will say that I want the thicker Barbie’s lower body with the thinner Barbie’s upper body. Small shoulders make a girl’s ass look even better. Thick barbie has a way cuter face too.

      • Gabi

        I’m glad to hear a guys input. However, I am not getting defensive, but thicker? She’s just normal…

    • Jhary Kenshura

      What is it as a society that drives young girls to having problems with an unrealistic doll, when young boys don’t have similar problems? How is it seemingly only in the last 20 years that this Barbie Problem has become so prevalent? Perhaps the real problem is that what was once a toy that was for girls and showed them they could be all sorts of professions has now become seen as a part of a glamour culture that emphasizes looks, celebrates models, and promotes fashion worldwide that almost no women in the world can actually wear? All of this, and the doll itself never changed one bit, but no longer looks like a toy, but like an endgame of a lifestyle that almost nobody can never attain.

    • Scarlet

      Actually, Lamm’s Barbie is chunky. My daughter is 20 now, but she was in between the two looks, and she had several friends that physically looked more like the original barbie. Now that my daughter is married and has had a baby, she looks like Lamm’s Barbie. Leave Barbie alone. She should have friends that come in a variety of builds, skin and hair colors. Now THAT would be realistic and fair.

      • jamiepeck

        Except no actual humans have the proportions of original Barbie.

      • Britney Robinson

        That is soooo stupid. When they put real life barbie measurements I wonder where they are getting that from? It is a frickin doll. It looks like a five feet six, b cup, 24 inch waist, no ass woman I see women like that everyday.

      • James Synkgar

        no one has MOST doll figures of any kid, you dont see people shitting themselves over spiderman

      • Joy Rose

        Barbie’s clothed dimensions are 38-26-34.

        When I was 19, my dimensions were actually pretty near 34-26-38.

      • Tory

        Exactly, and people have and do look like barbie, im sick of fat people getting angry cause theyre not skinny

    • Scarlet

      Lowsy self esteem comes from too much self esteem. Why are we so focused on ourselves? If we teach our daughters to focus on others, doing things for others, to expand their minds, contribute to society, to be actively involved, they won’t be so consumed with themselves. Do something for someone else, give of your time and effort, and see how much better ‘You feel’. Why are we blaming a toy?

      • jamiepeck

        Because peer-reviewed studies have told us that the toys kids play with have an impact on their body image?


      Lamm barbie needs to go on an hCG diet.

    • Walter White

      The realistic one is far sexier. Shake that healthy butt!

      • KathleenCat

        Ironic, since the original Barbie was modeled after Bild Lily, a toy for grown men…

    • Peachy K

      Pleeeeeeeeeeeeze……………Send me a live one, 2013 model!!

    • Blahblahjustjokinaround

      I say keep the old Barbie….because…. It’s easier to rip the head off of it in jealousy And a release of stress than the real looking one XD

    • Guest

      The average 19 year old girl is overweight. If you make the “average overweight” Barbie, it will still traumatize young, obese girls, who still “don’t look like Barbie.” It will also traumatize young girls who are normal young girl size but “don’t look like Barbie” because “new average Barbie” is 19 and overweight! By the way, I don’t hear any agreement about whether “new Barbie” “should” be average, or an ideal. Should she be a “healthy” weight? Since she’s a role model? Or should she be “average,” to preference average over healthy? Or is it likely that no matter what is done with Barbie, feminist grievance monsters will bitterly complain, and blame poor Barbie for the psychosocial dysfunctions of women?

      • The Shwaam

        Yes, the girls will be say “I look like fat Barbie”, the only way this works is if they off hot Barbie.

    • fuck you

      More pc
      crap from the “we are all winners and precious little snowflakes” generation of whiners who still live at home with their parents.

    • Juel

      They are both Gorgeous! :)

    • feex3

      Why do the second Barbie’s boobs look so small? I’m pretty sure most girls who share those proportions don’t have boobs that small…

      • Britney Robinson

        Yeah they do because they are overweight and probably are realistically b cups which is average breast size.

      • feex3

        Actually, the average cup size in the United States is a C cup, meaning the bust measurement is 3 inches larger than the underbust measurement. This girl looks like her bust is at most 2 inches larger than her underbust, making her at most a B cup. Though it’s probably more like 1.5 inches, making her somewhere between an A cup and a B cup.

        Also, overweight people tend to have bigger boobs.

      • Britney Robinson

        The only reason why C cup is average is because A. there is more fat people and B. hormones in food make young girls have bigger boobs. A B cup was the average like 5 years ago.

      • feex3

        But we’re talking the average right now.

        Also, it isn’t just a factor of the average weight going up. Cup size is increasing because more people are buying the correct bra size. Many women are wearing bras too big in the band and too small in the cup; as more people are growing aware of that fact, more people are getting properly sized.

    • Robert Murray

      who cares it’s a fucking toy. If you don’t agree, don’t buy it for them. And what about Ken?

    • Retnan

      Girls SHOULD want to be thin. Fat people are gross and feminazis should STFU.

    • Alexandria Parks

      Barbie’s head attachment is gone in the altered photos. It’s probably why Barbie’s neck is so long. They have to attach the head somehow and make it move. I don’t think if you actually built a barbie in the edited version her head could.

    • Rhapsody Pride

      I love the idea but no one wants a doll that looks average. They want glamour queens.

      Self image begins at home. Parents and television cause more body image issues than Barbie. Disney’s Women have been horribly unrealistic for years but we don’t remake them to look average. Disney took the two “Average yet beautiful” princesses, Merida and Mulan and ruined the entire point of their stories.

      IF we want to shore up self esteem, be more careful of what we let them eat and watch. I’m not saying no junk food, but moderation. Parents have to teach their kids healthy habits.

      I’m not a twig, but I’m certainly better than I could be because my mom didn’t let me have oreos, and fast food was a treat saved only for road trip emergencies

    • erinwm

      If regular Barbie were a real person, she would be too thin to get her period and she would not be able to stand up because of the weight of her boobs.

      • Michael Gerardi

        If Raggedy Ann were a real person, she would be too wide to fit in a car and too limp to move. So what? DOLLS AREN’T REAL!

      • erinwm

        I’d totally hang out with Raggedy Ann. Barbie just seems like a loser.

      • Weathergirl

        Please hang out with Raggedy Ann. You wouldn’t exactly be the life of the party with Barbie and other people that aren’t so uptight about every little thing Barbie is a DOLL. Biological facts are men are more attracted to attractive women, so limit your dating pool…feel free… (I’m sure you’ll say you got a great guy yada yada…but your holier than thou attitude will still limit you in life. Seems like the people that have to make a point to say they are openminded are more judgmental than anyone else. Enjoy your delusion…

      • GI Joe

        uhh.. so she wouldnt have a period? Where can i find a woman like that?!

    • The Shwamm

      What’s Barbie’s fat little sister’s name? Bertha, yes Barbie and Bertha. They come as a set. Barbie with an extra dress, Bertha with an extra table cloth.

    • Melanie Stayer

      The barbies I had when I was a kid were much prettier than these new ones. But I love Lamm’s so much more! I was a skinny kid and after puberty, I wasn’t. I was always self-conscious, and no amount of healthy food or exercise seemed to help. I might have felt better about myself if there weren’t such high, societal expectations of girls being 5’10″ and rail thin. People don’t realize how much children incorporate subconscious messages and how everything we experience shapes our personalities.

      • GI Joe

        Dont speak for others, only speak for yourself. Not everyone is so sensitive.

    • Drewfus

      The aliens will be displeased.

    • David Williams

      First: I totally support a Barbie with realistic proportions.
      Second: I’m no expert, but I thought there already were Barbies “of color” (also a good thing).

      But: There is a difference between “average” and “healthy”. We are a nation with an obesity problem and it is possible that “average” proportions could be promoting or legitimizing an unhealthy weight on the other end of the spectrum.

      • XX

        our perception of weight and what is healthy has changed. Watch Annette and Frankie in some of the Beach movies. Then that was the ideal figure, now they would be called fat.

    • Ollie Oxenfree

      Fatties who feel bad about their Barbie should play with Weeble Wobbles instead.

    • drezz

      id hit it

    • Eric

      3D printers are awesome. can’t wait till everyone can make their own toys in their own house and destroy the plastic toy market

    • jefnvk

      Why is it that GI Joe or Ken isn’t being updated to reflect the average guy, instead of some fit, buff, muscular god?

      But seriously, why does anyone let a plastic doll dictate their self worth? Maybe we should figure out that problem, instead of changing the doll…

      • erinwm

        Perhaps because men’s worth as a human isn’t defined by whether or not someone wants to “hit it.”

      • jefnvk

        If a woman goes through life basing her self worth on her attractiveness and how “hittable” she is, that is her problem. A real woman would be busying herself with far more worthwhile issues.

        Implying that is all women are good for makes you part of the problem.

      • erinwm

        Right. Societal pressures have absolutely no influence whatsoever on “real” people. All evidence points to that. Lol.

      • jefnvk

        No, I just have zero tolerance for people that let other’s opinions ruin their lives, especially in matters of attractiveness. I don’t sit around worrying that some people don’t find a bearded guy with a beer gut attractive. Guess what? I realize I am not anywhere near the peak of attractiveness. Can’t think of one time in life that it has ever bothered me.

        If you want to let Barbie’s shape ruin your life, though, go for it.

      • erinwm

        Barbie happens to have no influence whatsoever on my self-esteem. Then again, I’m 35 and was raised by a feminist.
        You are a man. Honestly, you just really can’t possibly understand. It’s like a white person claiming that racism doesn’t exist because no one has ever denied them a job or housing because of their race.

      • avery_t

        Are you serious? Do you know what social life is like for men who are 5′ 5″? I’m 5′ 8″ and that’s hard enough.

        White dudes who are 5′ 4″ sort of accept not having sex or having kids. Some do. But they feel lucky.

        Height is to men what weight is women.

      • erinwm

        See above comment.

      • Gi Joe

        Your above comment fails to respond in any way to what he is saying.. Sorry, try again.

      • Britney Robinson

        Bitch don’t use the race card, you are NOT black. I’m black and I think you are full of shit but maybe that is because I am black and people judge me everyday, vs you who had to make up problems in your world go somewhere else with that bull.

      • erinwm

        Wow, bitch, calm the f down. My point was about privilege. White people don’t recognize white privilege and men don’t recognize male privilege because they don’t personally encounter racism or sexism. What I said had NOTHING to do with people being judged for their skin color. Maybe if you read a book sometime you might have been able to realize that.

      • GI Joe

        maybe you should have been more specific, that is your fault. When you state that it’s like racism, you are making a false equivalency. Also, to act like Women are the only one’s who experience sexism is retarded: There are many jobs i cannot get because i have long hair, when women with long hair can get the same job.

        Men deal with the same body issues women do, take a sociology class. Because of MALE dolls that are overly muscular, many young boys feel insecure and not good enough. This isn’t a sex problem, its a people problem, so quit trying to make yourself and your sex the victim. Were all in this together.

        Also i don’t see anyone complaining about the super hot, definitely not average looking movie starlets. Should we only allow moderately attractive people be in movies and on TV because it’s more realistic? I don’t think many would agree with that. and i think it’s basically the same issue with the barbie. Should they have more than one shape of barbie, as they have more than one race? Probably. But this is capitalism; if the demand is there, they will make the product. The market dictates what is produced in general, and Mattell is still making money selling stick Barbie. If you really care, stop bitching about it on a message board and go out and do something; thats the only way it will change.

    • Michael Gerardi

      Making a 3-D scale model of a 19-year-old is God’s way of telling you you have WAY too much time on your hands. There are about, oh, eight BILLION more important things in this world than Barbie’s measurements!

    • John Mayo

      Where are the tattoos and cigarette of “an average 19 year old”?

    • Razor

      Fat Barbie’s face looks sad.

    • krejaton

      I wish all bras connected just with velcro!

    • Kimberly Taylor

      They should make more dolls in various sizes. I guess it’s possible to have the body of either doll (well, maybe not exactly as what Barbie looks like, but a tall and thin girl might relate somewhat I guess). But what about little girls? They don’t know they are not supposed to let this stuff ruin their self-esteem. They’re just kids. There should be more realistic dolls of different shapes and sizes so kids can feel they’re picking a doll that looks like them (if they want). They need to know it’s okay if they aren’t a 6’6″ emaciated tiny-footed Barbie.

    • ifibiubu

      Let Barbie be Barbie, in all her imagined ethnicities and careers.
      As for glorifying unreal body types, Disney does a great job with every new princess it animates.
      For diversity, go American Girl dolls. It’s the story behind each doll and not one has a curve.
      But, then, can’t imagine what Bratz say about a girl’s image.

      • Britney Robinson

        American girl dolls don’t have a story behind each doll that is only the historical collection and the new girl of the year(they have yet to make a black one I might add).

    • Mhm

      A healthy girl would be inbetween the two, honestly. At the end of the day, whats it matter anyways? Even if you did change barbie that wouldn’t stop girls from having bad self esteem and eating disorders. There will still be stick thin models, harsh words, and people that are skinnier.

    • tina

      lol stfu all of you. stop lying to yourselves. the barbie on the left is better..the one on the right looks like fiona from shrek.

    • bkhuna

      The real difference is that the old Barbie isn’t dying in a car crash because she’s texting.

    • Sue Z Q

      I wish someone would do the same rendering of the average 25 year old man versus the Ken doll! Hah, hah, hah. His outfit would have to be completed with a 6-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon and keys to his Parents’ basement (where he still lives) and his parents health insurance card!

      • GI Joe

        Having dating troubles, are we?

      • Sue Z Q

        Oh no! I just described many of my friends’ kids. (Hint: that makes me almost 50, married for 27 fun years and glad I’m not that age.). I make fun of PBR also, because that seems to be the favored beer of 20-something’s now and it was considered skunkie back in the 80s.

    • KnightTime

      If I were Ken, I’d hit it.

      • Fool_Killer

        Never seen Ken without his pants, have you?

      • GI Joe

        He’s a damn Eunuch!

    • Don Smith

      The entire point of dolls is that they are a fantasy play thing. It’s not supposed to be reality. No kid wants an average looking doll …

      Heck, let’s make Barbie ugly and handicapped so that no child will feel inferior. Maybe Ken should be given a nice beer belly and a tattoo or two?

    • Fool_Killer

      Looks like Skipper put on a little weight…

    • kgbkgb

      Yeah, she’s as fat as any typical 19 year old American girl nowadays. Keep on consoling these children into believing begin fat is good for them. When the average lifespan drops below 70 in America, people will look back and see the obvious that everyone is choosing to ignore now.

    • Slickrick1357

      Dat ass

    • Rationally Skeptical

      Now, we just need the same for all the He-man, GI Joe, and other action figures that are forcing boys to take steroids.

    • Rationally Skeptical

      Now all we need is to do the same thing with the He-man, GI Joe, and all the other action figures that force boys to take steroids.

    • Rationally Skeptical

      Now all we need is to do the same for He-man, GI Joe, and all the other action figures that make boys use steroids.

    • kiki27

      Who’s that fat load on the left…? Now can we see the man.

    • Kordell70

      Mmmm, new Barbie has got back. This GI Joe is definitely coming back for shore leave to get some of that booty.

    • James Synkgar

      so its bad to make kids want to be skinnier, but its good to allow kids to think being fat is good???

    • James Synkgar

      i dont like the neck makes her look squat

    • Dr. James Madison

      FACT: The original Barbie looks the BEST. The had it right back then.

    • Dr. James Madison

      The new Barbie looks awful Fat ass is right and horse hips. Girls that start off like that in a few years turn out even way bottom heavy and WAY OUT OF PROPORTION as their bottom and hips get as wide as a cow and they really look ridiculous on a little stature. I see it all the time.

      Stay skinny girls! Do not buy into this.

    • Sally Edelstein

      Why should Barbie be as standardized as a big mac? Americans have long had
      an ideal body type when it comes to women, but the shape itself has gone
      back to the drawing board every few years altering dramatically. Go figure. “Don’t you want a body you won’t be ashamed of?” was a question asked in a 1950s ad is one every woman can understand, but that headline was for an ad to gain weight, not lose it

    • Hello

      I’m sorry but this barbie isn’t skinny, this barbie is fat as hell no less than a size 14 which is plus sized.


      The original Barbie is the BEST!