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Anybody Else Shocked (And Disgusted) That Paul Walker’s Girlfriend Was Underage?

LONDON, ENGLAND - MAY 07: Actor Paul Walker attends the 'Fast & Furious 6' World Premiere at The Empire, Leicester Square on May 7, 2013 in London, England. (Photo by Stuart C. Wilson/Getty Images for Universal Pictures)

LONDON, ENGLAND – MAY 07: Actor Paul Walker attends the ‘Fast & Furious 6′ World Premiere at The Empire, Leicester Square on May 7, 2013 in London, England. (Photo by Stuart C. Wilson/Getty Images for Universal Pictures)

First off, I know I’m going to get flack for writing this, but let’s get it out of the way: I am deeply saddened by the tragic, untimely death of Paul Walker, as much as a person who’s never met the deceased can be saddened by that person’s passing. I am in no way trying to say his death was any less tragic than it obviously was, and I wish nothing but the best for his family and friends who have lost a beloved loved one.

However.

According to the Daily Mail, Paul Walker’s longtime girlfriend, Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell, was underage when they started dating. While Pilchard-Gosnell is currently 23–making her relationship with 40-year-old Walker perfectly legal–the pair had reportedly been dating since 2006, meaning she was just 16 when their relationship began. Now, call me old-fashioned, but the thought of a 16-year-old dating a 33-year-old makes me really uncomfortable. And while the Daily Mail says that “the 17-year age gap has been no barrier to them both finding love,” I’m pretty sure it should have been–at least, while she was still underage.

Seriously, think of where you were at 16: in 10th or 11th grade, awkwardly losing your virginity or perhaps barely making out with people, hanging out at the mall because you were too young to do much else (if you lived in suburbia like myself, at least). Are some high schoolers “more mature” than others? Sure, but we have age of consent laws in the United States for a reason.

There’s a reason the phrases “child bride” and “Courtney Stodden” weird us the F out. I’m only 24 and I wouldn’t dream of having a relationship with a high schooler because it’s uncomfortable, creepy and–obviously–illegal. Couple that with the fact that Walker’s daughter Meadow is only 8 years younger than Pilchard-Gosnell (while Walker was 17 years older than the latter) and this is just all sorts of strange to me. How does an underage high school girl even meet an adult man, then start dating him? And why was he okay with flirting with a high schooler?

Like I said, Walker’s death is nonetheless a huge tragedy–surely for Pilchard-Gosnell, as well as the rest of his loved ones. But it’s hard not to find this update in the story troubling, and, of course, surprising that this wasn’t a bigger deal prior to now. Is now the time to talk about this? I’m not sure, but I think it’s important to discuss it regardless.

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  • aemccarthy

    Sam, you absolutely should have written about this. Even if Paul Walker fed homeless children every day from his urban-farmed organic garden, it still doesn’t excuse dating an underage teenage girl.

    • debbie hodgdon

      here goes the shyt talkin about people after they die…who cares about if he dated a girl “underage” u jealous women out there shud jus stfu about it already…i was 17 when i started dating my fianceé 25 yrs older than me and i sure wudv done the same if he was a rich celebrity like paul…but i’m sure paul was also a nice dude since he did humanitarian work as a normal person…all this sht talkin about his gf is not worth making a bid deal about. i considered myself of marriagable age to any older guy since at least 14 and i wud treat any other girl the same now that i am 21 and i always will think the same way even wen i’m 40 myself. only jealous people or straight idots talk about age gaps like there’s somethin wrong with it.

    • aemccarthy

      I don’t think anyone said that he’s a bad or evil person, it’s just a LITTLE CREEPY that someone who is 33 would be interested in a 16 year old.

    • Cindybreeding

      I believe debbie and kathy are both dumb and illiterate. I agree that it is sad that he died, but that doesn’t mean i should say ONLY good things about the person who died because he is dead. I agree god is not going to punish him for statutory rape but its creepy in the rules created in the civilized society to help naive young kids from predators regardless of whether they like their predator or not.

    • Justthefact1

      The rules created in THIS civilized society say its ok in most states at 16 and 18 is perfectly fine ..so you think 16 is wrong, how about 18? if thats wrong what about the choice to go to war at that age ..is this wrong too??

    • Cindybreeding

      What are you talking about justthefact69? We are talking about under age about 16 not 18. We don’t go to war at age 16. We go at a legal age of 18 & thats when its considered consensual sex and legal age to fight in California. They are both from and live in california.

    • Justthefact1

      “how about 18? if thats wrong what about the choice to go to war at that age” so my quote is more clear .. this was mainstream media and was well known IF he did something illegal someone would have brought up charges ..true?

    • Cindybreeding

      As an actor you can pay off charges…hello? What about tht green mile actor having a hillbilly relationship with his 16 yr old girl? Lol we live n a world of different rules for uncle jimmy and paul walker. Its called the capitalist society.

    • Justthefact1

      I checked the California code it seems that if they had sex when she was 16 he did break the law most likely he would fall in the misdemeanor category since he was not a teacher .. the state i am in its consensual ..probably why all the posts because allot of states its legal and we want the dude to pass on well but if other states hold that illegal then they may not ..but it was over seven years ago and i remember him being with a young female and it passed ..but to dredge it up now is still in poor taste at least in my opinion ..anyhow ..have a good day!

    • Cindybreeding

      Agree to disagree. In my eyes, a guy breaking a law of the state he resides is breaking the rule…may it be mother Theresa or Charles Manson.

    • debbie hodgdon

      o so bcuz i dont take the time to write some eloquent piece of writing here cuz i dont have the time on my hands and i write with shortcuts and have a strong opinion that u dont agree wit, that sumhow makes me illiterate? plz

    • Katonine

      No, but your incoherent ramblings and atrocious grammar don’t help your case.

    • O2binboston

      It’s super creepy in my book. Then again Paul Walker is a mormon and dating younger girls is in their dna.

    • Guest

      Mr. Walker also stated dating a girl named Aubrianna Atwell when he was 28 years old and she was guess… 16. He definitely has a type.

      http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/02/article-0-19C8ECBD00000578-989_634x533.jpg

    • Kelly

      You’re pissed that people don’t like guys who date teenage girls and then you immediately turn around and start slut shaming…

      If your adult boyfriend loved you, he would have stayed out of your pants and let you get the education you obviously so desperately need.

    • debbie hodgdon

      wow how brainwashed a bunch of u people are…i’m assuming ur either a young woman who falls into that category i wuz talking about and/or only believes what u were told growing up that it’s only right to date sumone around ur own age, or ur some older woman which would explain everything. u hav no clue about people’s background and no experience to see any good relationships that exist with an age gap so ur in no place to talk.

    • jskittykins

      What if I told you…. You can be married young AND go to school, and that people in law school who are married (for example) typically have higher grades? It’s easier to get through school when you’re married (so long as your lifestyle is being sustained i.e. payed for), because you have someone really close to you encouraging you and supporting you. ESPECIALLY when the spouse also values education.

    • dmasz91

      i agree with jskittykins ….it’s easy to do both at the same time and being together with someone does encourage the other person in school , in fact i got better grades my senior yr of high school after getting wit my much older man than i ever got in school before.

    • True

      Why is it always the [young] females who claim age isn’t important. If you were the SAME age as your partner, he would NOT date you.

      PS. You sound illiterate.

    • Justthefact1

      OR maybe if they were the same age they would still get along?

    • debbie hodgdon

      sure that’s why he isn’t dating a woman his age becuz they tend to b b*tchs by the time they reach that age

    • Roxanne Lee

      What reason would anyone have to be jealous of you and your relationship?

    • dmasz91

      i neva sed people shud be jealous of my relationship, wut u talking about? i mentioned jealousy becuz older women get jealous of the thought that the guys in their age group can be taken by younger girls.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      There is no such thing as “underage” when it comes to dating.

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.

      Where was all the Outrage then?

      Bet more than half of the women posting here would be all over Brad Pitt the
      Statutory Rapist if given the chance.

  • Ebony in Hartford

    I met my ‘older man’ at Boston Market. I was almost 17 and he was 24 and in grad school. It was end of junior year, we had a great time, and I have no regrets, especially since none of the boys at my school wanted to go out with me. Americans are so puritanical. Plus dating and hanging out with a guy, even a slightly older one, doesn’t have to mean sex.

    • Judy

      We’re talking about more than a “slight” age difference.

    • Samantha_Escobar

      Not sure why you put older man in quotes. If he was 24 and you were 16, he was literally an older man.

    • gothicgaelicgirl

      thank you!aemccarthy certainly seems to think it means you’re swapping BJs and screwing around rather than the emotional PING most people feel when they click with someone.
      And as far as I know, love didn’t have any age restrictions…?

    • Samantha_Escobar

      It actually does. Children cannot date adults. There are, in fact, many restrictions on love. (Some are unjust, like laws banning gay marriage; others make perfect fucking sense, like not letting kids have romantic relationships with adults.)

    • aemccarthy

      You’re telling me that a 33 year old man wouldn’t be interested in sex with his 16 year old girlfriend? Girl go on.

    • dmasz91

      why not? there’s nothing wrong wit the sex as long as they want to eventually get married or even get married first and it’s consensual …it’s no different than 2 young people being together. u’v never come up with a good reason for an older man to somehow be proven to have bad intentions over a young guy.

    • Justthefact1

      depends on what you mean by children, i doubt you mean 18 right? If they can go to war and be killed i doubt you would be so contradictory to think that is ok and on the other side of the coin it would be wrong for them to marry say a 101 year old, if they so chose? please define child..it seems your definition of child is set at 16 so far…

    • Cindybreeding

      What are you talking about justthefact69? We are talking about under age about 16 not 18. We don’t go to war at age 16. We go at a legal age of 18 & thats when its considered consensual sex and legal age to fight in California. They are both from and live in california.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      The draft as has abolished for decades now, the last I checked.

    • Samantha_Escobar

      Well, yeah, you are 100% right in your initial statement–I do not mean 18 for children. At no point did I say an 18-year-old is a child. You are correct, sir.

      Also, uh, why would marrying a 101-year-old be remotely equivalent to marrying a chi–ah, fuck it, I give up explaining.

    • Justthefact1

      lmao! I just don’t like articles picking on a guy that died stayed in the relationship under i am sure allot of talk showing that there was allot more substance to it ..I mean why not write about it when it was much closer to the time. like when she was 16 ahh never mind you probably were young teen at the time lol.. this guy should be treated better than a bash column and his girl i am sure would feel the same .. let the guy die with some honor judging time was long ago, he was in the public for all to see and take to court so it seems the people remained silent were the law was concerned and that was the answer on it.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      There is no law on dating, trust me.

    • gothicgaelicgirl

      most 16 year olds I know are mature enough to know whether they’re in a good situation or not.
      I think we can all agree though, it really depends on the individual situation and each case is different.

    • dmasz91

      it depends who ur calling a child. i think ur definitions are messed up.

    • Ellie

      Yes, but when you met your older man, imagine your next boyfriend hadn’t even been born. 8 years v 17 years,

    • lester jones

      yes dating a guy always means sex. NO older guy is going to date a younger chick and not do her. EVER

    • Ebony in Hartford

      Welp, somehow I took my virginity with me to college that fall where I also dated other guys I didn’t sleep with over 4 years. Sorry dude.

    • lester jones

      blowjobs still count as sex so youre lying

    • dmasz91

      so the point is even if that is the case for guys…then it still doesn’t make and older guy any worse than a younger guy for the young girl. young guys only want sex the same if not more so plz…..smarten up

  • Josey

    I agree. I thought it was downright creepy. But the guy has a loyal following and they apparently have no difficulties justifying it. If he had been a 33 year-old teacher and she had been his 16 year-old student, the media would’ve been all over him as a child predator. The difference is that he was a reasonably attractive rich actor. I suppose it’s a symptom of our decadent culture.

    • Kay_Sue

      The difference between a teacher and an actor is that a teacher is seen as an authority figure in the child’s life. Typically those situations are guided by ethical and professional guidelines, and usually school policy. It’s also written into some consent laws, because a teacher, coach, or administrator can have more power over the kid’s scholastic career, making it easier for them to coerce the child even if he/she wants to leave the relationship or doesn’t really want one to begin with. It is a small distinction, but a distinction none the less.

    • aemccarthy

      But there is still a power differential. A famous actor is equally as influential over the lives of young kids as (sadly, SOB) teachers are sometimes.

    • Josey

      aemccarthy, I agree. It’s about power and, in this case, hypocrisy.

    • thatgirl

      Hypocrisy how?

    • JLH1986

      Agreed. But creepy or not. In most states it wasn’t illegal, 16 is the age of consent. Her mother has spoken to the media about her daughter’s thoughts so at least publicly her mother has no problem with it. That’s the problem is there are no set rules. You can date a 16 year old as long as you aren’t their teacher (which then makes it a crime). It should be illegal to date someone under 18 if you’re over 21. Period.

    • aemccarthy

      It’s always sketchy to me how these laws are enforced across the states. In some states, there are 17 year old boys who have to register as sex offenders for dating 15 year old girls, and in others, 16 year olds can date whoever they want.

    • JLH1986

      Right? Those boys are stuck for life with that label, but Doug Hutchinson is all kosher? I have friends who married teachers (after we graduated) and they are still happily married, but its not for me. And I really think we need a set standard of laws regarding underage consent.

    • Samantha_Escobar

      Same. I have no qualms with Romeo & Juliet laws, for the most part; a 15-year-old and a 17-year-old dating isn’t weird. They are often in the same school at the same time, so it makes sense social situation-wise that they might become romantically involved, yet they’re frequently punished and put on sex offender registries. The idea of a 33-year-old being a-okay with having a romantic relationship with a high schooler is an entirely different case.

    • WHocares

      The idea of a 16 yr old wanting to settle down and be a responsible adult and not wanting to party until they are 30 is so disgusting!

    • Samantha_Escobar

      If that’s what you took from my comment, I give up.

    • jack_sprat2

      LOL Soon, it’ll be 40.

    • Semyaz

      I understand reporters they are only interested in writing a article
      that gets a lot of attention. Regardless of who is bad mouthed or cut
      down in the process.Reporters wither online or in a newspaper don’t give
      a damn about who they talk about or who they hurt. But this article
      falls under bad timing and bad taste and this site should be ashamed for
      running the story. I will tell you why if Paul Walker had been dating a
      girl who was 16 I know damn good and well someone knew about it before
      this article was wrote and well before he died.That is where the bad
      timing comes in your site is only concerned with running an article that
      brings your site attention that would make you attention whores.The bad
      taste is writing this trash only a few days after the man died shows
      no respect for the dead and any one of the low lifes that bad mouthed
      Paul Walker about this article has no respect for the dead.Everyone who
      posted about this article myself included has done something your no
      proud you all have sinned in one form or the other. To make my point how
      would all of you who talked trash the next time someone in you family
      dies I dig through their past and find something they did and we all are
      guilty of screwing up it is human nature and a few days after your
      relative kicks the bucket we post one of the screw ups on a site an let
      people like the ones on this site that have bad mouthed a dead man who
      could not defend himself talk bad about your relative and the bad things
      they have done how would all of you who said anything bad about Paul
      Walker feel seeing your relative trashed for what they did not while
      they were alive but waited till they were dead to defame them.This
      site,the author of this article and anyone who posted saying something
      bad about Paul Walker after he died has no respect for dead and for lack
      of words are low life pieces of trash. People don’t see the good he did
      the different groups and foundations he supported the day he died he
      was coming from his charity Reach Out Worldwide where they had held a
      toy drive. So now all of you can think about what crappy human beings
      you are pat yourself on the back good job .

    • Elizabeth Richardson

      THANK YOU SEMYAZ YOUR POST IS WELL WRITTEN AND TO THE POINT ALL OF THE NEGATIVE PEOPLE SHOWED NO RESPECT FOR THE DECEASED AND FOR HIS FAMILY ESPECIALLY HIS DAUGHTER THEY NEVER GAVE ANY THOUGHT TO HER OR TO HER FEELINGS THEY ARE THOUGHTLESS, AND DEAD FROM THE NECK UP. I BET SOME OF YOU WOMEN WISH YOU WERE IN HIS GIRLFRIEND’S SHOES AND SOME OF YOU GUY’S WISHED YOU WERE IN PAUL’S SHOES,THE FACT REMAINS HE WAS A HUMAN BEING WITH A HEART AND THE HEART WANT’S WHAT THE HEART WANT’S LOVE DOES NOT PICK AN AGE. UNTIL NOW I NEVER KNEW THAT HE AND HIS GIRL HAD THAT MUCH OF AN AGE DIFFERENCE BUT SO WHAT WHERE’S THE CREEPY? INSTEAD OF TRASHING A MAN WHO IS NO LONGER ALIVE YOU SHOULD BE HONORING HIM FOR THE GOOD HE DID WHILE HE WAS ALIVE AND PRAISE HIM FOR IT IN HIS PASSING LET THE MAN REST IN PEACE. ARE ANY OF YOU SQUEAKY CLEAN? NO DON’T EVEN THINK THAT YOU ARE OR ANY OF YOUR FAMILY MEMEMBER;S NO ONE IS PERFECT.

    • Henry Bowman

      EXCELLENT USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS.

    • Dev2008

      And if the heart wanted a 10 year old that too is acceptable? hmm

    • IzzyKiddnya

      How old is the heart?

    • Justthefact1

      This is not a ten year old being talked about is it?

    • Sharon

      Right! Point made. We are adults act like it. If he really liked her he should have left her alone until she turned of age.

    • Lorie Franklyn

      How unfortunate! It looks like your caps lock is broken. It makes it really hard to read your post because it’s so annoying, so I didn’t.

    • Tom Knight

      You are annoyed by a capital letter? That’s all it takes? Lame!

    • Miss Y

      I’m also annoyed by all-caps posts – Not by A capital letter but by HUNDREDS of them. Why is that so difficult to believe? It’s hard on the eyes, annoying and bordering on the bizarre.

    • Sharon

      Funny. Right

    • billybatson

      Elizabeth Richardson,
      No need to SHOUT!

    • Miss Y

      Good Grief – How is it that people don’t understand how difficult it is to read all-caps comments? Not to mention the fact that it makes you look like a wild-eyed lunatic!

    • shawn_jhnstn@yahoo.com

      Are u people really whining about that person typing in all caps and truely think it makes a difference? That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard

    • JohnnyD

      All that stuff about the heart wanting aside, it’s just hard to imagine what a 33- and a 16-year-old would have in common, and how this relationship would have developed, without having to ask some uncomfortable questions. Particularly when he is nothing if not “worldly”, being a big Hollywood star, and she – a freshman/sophomore in high school, no doubt still living at home with her parents.

      Unless mom and dad were the ones who introduced them (even weirder) and encouraged the relationship, then you are left with a bunch of possible scenarios that just seem creepy.

      Based on my own recollections of my mindset and maturity (or lack thereof) at age 33, then extrapolating that to encompass what I imagine I would have done with fame and a shitload of money, it’s hard for me to NOT assume that AT LEAST INITIALLY, this was all about lusting over “a sweet innocent young thing”, to use the popular parlance.

      I suppose It could be that I’m just a pervert projecting on him, but I do know that I’m not a pervert. Hence my discomfort with this.

    • Quadcowgirl@yahoo.com

      I agree I would have loved have been in her shoes!

    • Sharon

      I think no matter how you may feel, pursuing a child is wrong. We have laws to protect children for a reason because adults can not always use better judgement. The reason people only are finding out about it now is because he is dead.

      I liked him as an actor and was saddened about his death. Remember he embarrassed his family and daughter not any reporter reporting on the truth.

      What’s done in the dark always comes to light. Watch what you do.

    • Lisas Tiels

      Amen!!! This would have been out there trying to trash this poor man 7 years ago in the middle of the Fast and Furious movies. People like this sicken me (the reporters)

    • Sharon

      The reporter is just reporting on news. He’s the one dating a 16 year old girl. Why didn’t anyone tell him it was messed up Vin Diesel. I’m just saying!

    • Sharon

      Cause you know HE KNEW!

    • Dev2008

      I think the majority of people had no idea that he was dating a young teenager when he was 30. His death and the reports about his girlfriend did trigger the fact about their age difference and it has been talked about a lot. So why not address it? If you don’t find it disturbing, then fine but it is something most of us did not know so it opens up a whole different conversation. Many stories about his love of fast driving and it’s consequences are also out there. If he were less handsome, less well liked would it bother people less that it is being brought up?

    • usmc-raid

      agree

    • Goober

      Wow. Sounds like he hit a nerve. did it ever occur to you that by condeming and judging those who see things a particular way or comment a certain way is exactly the same thing you are condeming. Ironic, isn’t it. So by your logic that makes you a crappy human being too. See, I don’t believe that you are or that anyone else is for expressing their opion about a grown man having a sexual relationship with a minor. Our society has a couble standard when it comes to the wealthy and famous. We figure if they are rich and good looking surely they must not be desparate and can have anyone they want so this relationship must be condoned. Wrong, it is still concerning that a grown man who wasily holds great influence over someone with their fame would enter into a situation like this with an imprssionable youg person. If you have any doubt about his ability to influence just look at your increidbly defensive and condemning remarks on his behalf. you don’t know that he wasn’t a sexual deviant or a good guy. You know nothing about the man. I believe you are just a human being who is being overly emotional about a celebrity who you have never met. Be not offended by others opinions or condemnations. Examine your own way of thinking.

    • thatgirl

      You make a lot of valid points that I agree with; however people act like he’s been rich and famous for years and that isn’t the case.

    • bish please

      shut up you little skank defend the child molester as any other person in america would have been labled timing or not facts are facts

    • thatgirl

      Thank you! You said it perfectly.

    • WHocares

      And in some states you can sleep with a 16 yr old, but you cant show a 16 yr old your genitals or watch adult videos with them.(because they use the term “minor” )

    • Miss Y

      How do you sleep with someone without showing them your genitals? Are you saying that it’s legal to sleep with a 16 yr old, but only in the dark – in some states?

    • sirus22

      sketchy only if your IQ is below 100…ahhh hmmmm.

    • jack_sprat2

      Why “sketchy”? These laws aren’t ENFORCED differently, so much as they ARE different, from State to State. This isn’t a unitary Republic, but a Federal one, so that’s as things should be. Feel free to agitate to change them where YOU live, though.

    • Kerry Bloomer

      plus some states make a distinction if the underage kid is of the same sex as the adult or not

    • thatgirl

      In what state can 17 year olds be arrested for dating 15 year old girls? That makes absolutely no sense.

    • BhamBrave

      @Thatgirl ..Georgia. A 17 year old senior was sentenced to 10 years in prison for having consensual sex with his 15 year old girlfriend.

    • thatgirl

      Wow. Thanks for telling me – that’s outrageous.

    • shawn_jhnstn@yahoo.com

      Don’t believe everything u read. It makes u look stupid

    • thatgirl

      Well, in regard to this subject I am stupid. I don’t know Georgia’s law. As I said, it’s outrageous.

    • shawn_jhnstn@yahoo.com

      Liar. Ur an IDIOT n should have been aborted

    • Hilda Orduno

      In New Mexico if you are at that stage in your development it is one developmental level. A 15 year old cannot legaly date a 17 year old, an 18 year old would end up in jail. Same for a 16 year old.

    • Khalil

      But should it be illegal exactly? What’s your rationale.

    • JLH1986

      I didn’t say anything should be illegal. I said there should be a set standard regarding age of consent. I live in a tristate area. All three states have different standards. In the state I live 16 is the age of consent, however, in one of the neighboring states the age of consent is 17, in the other it’s 15. The states are close enough that an 18/19/20 year old could easily meet someone from any of these states. That 19 year old that could date the 15 year old, would be forced to register as a sex offender in the other 2 states. Do I personally think that 30+ adults should be dating teenagers? No. I think it smacks of an adult taking advantage of someone with (usually) minimal life experience. That being said MOST states (something like 30+) have determined that the age of consent is 16 (barring the adult in question being a teacher or person of power over said 16 year old). If that’s what we as a society are saying, then we need to make it a set standard and say 16 is the age of consent so that 19 year olds aren’t ruined for life with a criminal label for dating one.

    • dmasz91

      morality isn’t based on life experience neither…wow people….if anything there is much to love about innocence which older people have usually already lost, and they shud b ashamed of that. i’m sure god wud rather hav the older people just as innocent minded rather than poisoned by the ideas that society peer pressures one to believe.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      But why should it be illegal exactly? What’s your rationale? Whats on one’s 21th birthday where dating a minor should be illegal?

    • ella

      Your right a 16 year old is old enough to think for themselves but thats not the point here, the point is ..what was he thinking to date a 16 year old at 33? This falls badly on him since he was a grown man and not her. She was probably a young teenager who thought he was very attractive and a famous actor. His daughter is almost the same age that his gf was when they started dating. Im sure he wouldnt feel pleased to have a 33 year old date her. He was an awesome actor, but it obviously doesnt mean that he was a very decent human being.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      It doesn’t make him a bad human being either. He also dated 28 year old Aubrianna Atwell more than a decade ago.

    • Christeeeeeen

      Basically what you’re saying now is that he liked his girlfriends barely legal or not even. You’re not helping him here.

    • gc

      she could have looked older and lied about her age at first. when you date someone, do you ask to see ID for proof of age? i dated someone for quite some time before she told me she had a child and i had no idea.. gotta know the facts before you judge someone.

    • Andrew Martin

      Give m a break. What a stupid excuse to try and fabricate…and so stereotypical as well. People look EVEN YOUNGER to someone older than themselves. Besides, any NORMAL adult in their freaking 30s would run as soon as they realized someone was that young.

    • Ran

      … not really. as someone who has to check IDs, it’s often impossible to tell the age of girls between 17-25. (and both of the girls were over 16)

    • saraya

      Totally agree gc….all these people who are bashing him have no idea what exactly their relationship was when she was 16, if he even knew she was that young. Geez people get a grip. Just because something is written or said doesn’t make it true. Pretty sad that that has to be said.

    • jack_sprat2

      I’m more curious about this need to judge those who are beyond any possibility of recrimination, not to speak of the punishment for which they were never, under law, eligible. Angels on the heads of pins, indeed!

    • Man_Of_Sin

      It doesn’t make him a bad person. That is only social engineering talking.

    • Andrew Martin

      It’s not “social engineering”, it is in fact unnatural if you want to get philosophical about it.

    • WHocares

      It’s actually completely natural….especially since (no offense) girls over 30 have increased CHANCES of birth defects. Even higher when you get closer to his age. So naturally you want healthy off spring… so why wouldn’t you date a girl in her prime ?

    • Micaliv

      mot unnatural just unusual in today’s society

    • dmasz91

      u might be wrong about whether or not a 33 yr old wit his daughter wud plz him. usually if someone does something they have a certain belief and would also allow their child to do the same. who says she wasn’t a grown woman at 16? at least some people like myself have enuf respect for some 16 yr old women to call them a full grown woman if that’s what they are. ur assuming she was immature without even knowing her. it doesn’t fall badly on him, it think anyone who says it’s wrong actually looks badly…so what? who says the prime motive to be wit him was for his popularity? no one shud feel the right to assume they know anything about someone they don’t know. and u contradictedd urself cuz if a 16 yr old is old enuf to think for themselves, then case closed.

    • Nila

      I was very mature at 16. I had a job, took care of two children while my mother and sister worked and was on the honor role at school. I did not lack intelligence or critical thinking skills, what I lacked was experience that would help me make judgments as an adult in an adult relationship. That takes time and gradual growth. You don’t go from 16 to 30 in a leap.

    • Nila

      Sorry, roll.

    • Justthefact1

      Hmm.. interesting ..so you basically did the job of an adult parent and yet somehow you say you would not be ready enough to be in a relationship doing basically the same thing?

    • WHocares

      So what changes at 18? that in 2 years they stop caring about attractiveness and fame?

    • Christeeeeeen

      Did you still think all the same things at 18 that you did at 16? Make the same kinds of impulsive decisions without thinking about possible consequences? Here’s a different question: would you like to see 16-year-olds serving in the military and dying in combat?

    • micaliv

      they do everywhere else but England just about

    • sirus22

      yep you got it, he’s not a “very decent human being” because you think he shouldn’t have dated a 16 year old girl. hmmm I find it much more indecent that you and your tiny little pea brain believes you have the right to pass judgment.
      the truly scary aspect of our society today is the judgmental, sanctimonious hypocrites who actually believe they have the right to behave this way, well actually the problem is that they are too dumb to grasp just how ignorant this trait makes them.
      ignorance really is bliss isn’t it ella.

    • Nila

      Please don’t be offended, but I read your post and found myself wondering the following. If nobody makes a judgment, how do you prevent chaos? Not just meaning this topic, because it seems you are speaking of a broader issue. What happens when differing ways of living conflict, when something you want can do harm to others or the other way around? Who makes the final call? And what are those decisions based on?

    • jack_sprat2

      Better ask, who benefits by such chaos. Hint: He sports unusual head gear. And a brace of trouser snakes.

      As a general rule. I’m offering no judgment as to the specifics of those discussed here.

    • jack_sprat2

      That President Reagan! What a scoundrel and cad!

    • JLH1986

      My rationale is that it’s incredibly unfair to label an 18 year old with a 15.5 year old girlfriend as a sex offender but not label Doug Hutchinson or even Paul Walker as one when they are a decade or more older. If we as a society are saying that 16 year olds are capable of making those decisions then it should be 16. If we’re saying that 16 year olds aren’t capable of making adult decisions because they aren’t mature, fully developed whatever and thus they can’t vote or be considered an “adult” until 18, then make it 18. I just don’t think it’s acceptable to have an 18 year old go to jail in Illinois for a girlfriend who is 16, but 100 miles away in Indiana a 22 year old can impregnate a 15 year old and that’s ok. That’s not fair to people in those 100 miles who may or may not know what side of the law they are on. While I personally would prefer 18 being the age of consent for anyone (based on current US standards of not being a “legal” adult until 18), shockingly the legislature doesn’t care about one person’s opinion. So if 16 is the consensus then it needs to be 16 and we need to stop labeling 19 year olds who date them as sex offenders.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      18 is a not a rationale number to set the age of majority anyway.

    • WHocares

      Age of consent has nothing to do with the age of the offender it’s a “agreed upon” age where someone can make the decision to be in a sexual relationship on their own. And if they are old enough to have sex they are old enough to be able to choose who they can have sex with. It’s that simple. Just because you find it gross doesn’t mean that Paul Walker was a perv.

    • Nila

      So, if it was a 14 year old or a 12 year old, that would be okay just because they said they wanted to. Where do you draw the line?

    • jack_sprat2

      That IS the question, isn’t it? Well, along with WHO does the drawing of lines WHERE.

    • jack_sprat2

      I do wonder how many of those here waxing indignant are admirers of President Reagan. For those who are both, a question, please. How do you feel about the fact that Ronnie “took” Liz Taylor’s “cherry” when he was 36 and she 15?

    • maggie

      Are you positive of that statement? can you prove what you just wrote?

    • Hilda Orduno

      He was a pervert as well. Being so many adult women why would grown ass men want little girls and yes they are little girls? Becuase they are child molesters.

    • Yonkinator

      You can “have sex” at just about any age but you cannot make an educated, mature, conscientious decision to be a willing participant in sex until a generally accepted age – the age of consent. In some states, legislatures have decided that is 16, some 18, and I believe some states even say 15. There is a big difference in deciding you want to have sex (ask any 12 year old, over-hormoned boy) or in deciding that it is time to show you love and are committed to someone and therefore decide to join with that person. If we want to make the argument that 16 is old enough to make mature, educated, and conscientious decisions then let’s keep our mouths shut when a 16 year old is tried as an adult for murder, robbery, car-jacking, assault, hate-crime, etc. It goes both ways.

    • Antoinette Ribisi Boulet

      Yes, yes, yes! I agree with you…either we accept that they are old enough, or they accept that they are not and wait until they are 18 or older.

    • JLH1986

      At no point did I say Paul Walker was a perv. I admit if I were a parent of a 16 year old I would have some concerns about he/she dating someone 33. I simply said that I find it disconcerting that there is not standard. Depending on where you live it changes. For example. I live in a tri-state area. In all 3 states the rules are different. However, in less than 20 miles I can visit all 3 states. If we as a society (in my local area) are saying 16 year olds are capable of giving their consent, then it should be 16 in all three states. Not 18 in my state, 16 as long as the other party isn’t over 19 in another and in the other 17. That was what my post was about. Let’s choose an age and go with it. Regardless of my thoughts on Paul Walker, if he did have sex with her before her 18th birthday, in the State of California, where they both lived, he committed a crime and was not punished for it. Of course there is no way to prove he had sex with her or that they even dated, as other posters have pointed out. The post, I think, was meant to bring up the fact that a rich, famous, attractive man was “allowed” to date a 16 year old girl (allegedly). However, if say a balding, overweight, McDonald’s employee had attempted to date said 16 year old, what would the response be then? At least that was my take away from the post.

    • jack_sprat2

      Laws aren’t made by societies, but by governments. As it happens, the governments of the UK and the USA aren’t one and the same. Also, as it happens, nor are those of NY and MI.

      Don’t bother calling your Congressman about this perceived “injustice”, either. It’s most unlikely that he or she will choose to begin the arduous process of amending the U.S. Constitution, so that Congress might then have jurisdiction in such matters domestically. (Indeed, Americans overseas are now bound by U.S. law in such matters. The age of consent is–wait for it–16.)

    • cezzwho

      Your name says it all. Pointless to say anything.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Concession accepted.

    • Tracee F

      Yes because we KNOW they didn’t have a sexual relationship until she turned 21. Yeah, ok.

    • jack_sprat2

      It’s called a “moral panic”. This nation has been repeatedly convulsed by them since long before it WAS a nation. (E.g., the Salem Witch Trials.) They’ve always been more indignant during economic down times.

    • Teacherman

      The bottom line is that he was 33 and she was 16, right? I only have this discussion as proof – I didn’t know it before today. Reguardless of legality, that is at the least very strange and reflects very badly on him and his judgement. Anyone here who doesn’t see that, well, that reflects very badly on you.
      I can see the argument to leave the dead alone as it hurts their family and Walker can’t defend himself. But even that changes nothing. Other than being a rich actor, I don’t know him. I don’t know if he was generous, kind, or if he left the world a better place. I really just don’t know anything about him. No matter what, it was wrong of him to allow himself to begin a relationship with a 16 year old.

    • fiftyoddkickback

      The Idiot Social Pontificator has joined us. Thank you for that completely unfounded bit of junk science.

    • Dev2008

      Age of consent is important because too many young people got into relationships they were much to immature for. Driving a car and having a relationship with an adult when you are still a child are too very different things. If this man were ugly and like that disgusting creep who kidnapped those three girls in Ohio I bet people would not be defending the relationship. I’m sure most parents also would agree their 16 year old girls are much too immature to be in an adult relationship with someone 33. Had she been dating a boy her own age or say 21 people would be more tolerant as they are in the same social status. What 33 year old do you know looks at 15 year olds as equal and appropriate to date? Probably not many, and I’m sure most parents knowing how young 16 year olds can would find it inappropriate. Most are mentally much too immature, emotional and unready for such a relationship. And I’m sure if a 22 year old was dating a 5 year old NOBODY would find it appropriates. Just because girls physically mature doesn’t make them ready for a relationship as intense as an adult one, especially if the person is almost 20 years older.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Driving a car screwing up at the wheel has lead to deaths. The driving age is almost UNIVERSALLY NOT lower than the age of consent. As for not being mature enough for these relationships there have been studies on that saying otherwise.

      “Two studies have investigated the association between age difference and aspects of females’ sexual debut. Abma and colleagues used 1995 NSFG data to examine partner age difference in the context of measuring “wantedness” of first intercourse. Their findings suggested that wantedness is inversely related to the age difference between a young woman and her partner, and that it may be related to her limited control over the situation.6 Furthermore, Leitenberg and Saltzman found that among females who had had first sexual intercourse at ages 11-12, those who had a partner five or more years their senior had an elevated risk of attempted suicide, substance abuse and pregnancy. Among females who had had first intercourse between the ages of 13 and 15, having older partners was associated only with truancy. In contrast, among females whose age at first intercourse was 16-18, having older partners was not linked to these negative outcomes. Thus, adverse effects of partner age difference may lessen as females mature.7″

      http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3430402.html

    • Hilda Orduno

      In some states you can’t even get a license now until you are 18. You can get a provisional license at 16 which means driving only during daylight hours and if you drive at night you can have only ONE adult in the car with you.

    • VisualInsanity

      Yeah, because you can’t get into a car accident during the daylight hour…oh wait. Yeah, still utter silly.

    • CTB

      Period my ass….you don’t know what is right or wrong for these people….

    • JLH1986

      Statistics would back my assertion that dating someone 10+ years older while 16 ends poorly but, correct I don’t. However, I think it’s a bit ridiculous to say that a person isn’t an adult and thus not capable legally of making decisions regarding their living situation, finances, ability to fight in a war etc. until 18 but then say 16 year olds are actually legally able to determine who to have sex with. If 18 is “legal” then we need to stick with 18 instead of creating variations in laws in different areas.

    • dmasz91

      there is only one morally right thing, but it depends on the person, which is why i think law shudnt b involved the way it is. i think we shud only be against true pedophiles, not anything short of that. and it all depends on intentions, which people aparently dont care about anymore.

    • WHocares

      Morals depend on the person. If you were a truely religious person you wouldn’t even need age of consent laws because morally(spiritually) only married couples can consent to sex.

      But logically do you really think a 16 yr old doesn’t know what they are doing when they have sex?

    • Christeeeeeen

      16 year olds are, in general, not terribly emotionally mature. Witness the frequent flying off the handle over every little thing and thinking everything that happens is the end of the world. That goes for both girls *and* boys at that age. Is a 16-year-old boy prepared to support a family, work a boring job, give up hanging out with his friends all the time and deal with crying babies at that age? Most aren’t. But you seem to think girls *are* ready for all those things at that age.

    • jack_sprat2

      When people began declining to enforce community standards INFORMALLY, through such mechanisms as shunning and shame, the perceived need for more formal mechanisms grew apace. Moral people have little need of most laws. Immoral people an infinite thirst for them. A thirst which is never slaked, of course. A people cannot long remain free of the consequences of their wickedness.

      We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,

      Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,

      But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come

      That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome. — Kipling

    • Hilda Orduno

      So what’s the difference between a pedophile and a true pedophile? And who makes that distinction?

    • Man_Of_Sin

      There needs to be variations in the law. Not every part of our body matures at the same time. Btw, you can join the military at 17 with parent’s consent.

    • jack_sprat2

      Audie Murphy joined in 1943, at the age of 15, with his mother’s permission. He remains the most decorated soldier in American history. Had a fine film career, afterward.

    • Hilda Orduno

      And is some states you can marry at 15 with your parents consent, so what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

    • WHocares

      Statistics will also prove your theory wrong……depending on how they are presented. Laws are different in different areas because different communities have different ideas of what is acceptable. A lot of them were lowered simply because so many people were becoming felons for having perfectly healthy ,although immoral relationships.

      Using your theory what if they said “16 is the legal age of consent PERIOD!”… would you be like “oh, okay.. in that case paul walker is fine dating a 16 yr old.” Or would you say “THAT’S GROSS! it should be 18!!!”…….that’s why it cant be even across the board. There’s 2 sides of every argument.

    • kitty

      This isn’t entirely true. While, yes, the age of consent in many states is 16, many also have restrictions to how far apart the age difference can be if the younger individual is a minor.
      Overall, this relationship was extremely creepy. Why would you even want to date someone so young at his age? (I’m 22 and I get weirded out by the idea of even dating someone who hasn’t graduated high school yet–it’s just a completely different set of priorities.)

    • Justthefact1

      what states have these age gap restrictions out of the 30 states that accept it you say many..how many is it?

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Once you reach the age of consent you can have sex with anyone older. Here is a link that goes into the details of each state’s law.

      http://www.age-of-consent.info

    • dmasz91

      i think the only reason people feel weird about this is bcuz of non-supportive high schoolers who are as dumb as their parents (who believe it wud b weird) wud b ridiculing u for dating the high schooler. if they were supportive and not judgmental as they shud be, then u wudnt have that issue. it’s simple. and i can see as a female it’s especially weird bcuz we tend to know how immature young guys in high school are. the quesiton isn’t why wud he want to date someone her age, the better question is why wud he wana date someone his own age? or why wud he not want ot date someone younger? u people act like there aren’t good enuf reasons to date someone much younger, but teen girls who have a good head on their shoulders are just as good quality to date as any older woman

    • Christeeeeeen

      ur txtspeak posts r rly hard 2 read for ne1 who didn’t learn 2 type using a phone keypad.

    • WHocares

      For the most part this “restriction” only applies to people under 16 so a 16 yr old can be exempt from being a sex offender for sleeping with a 15.999999999 yr old.

      And when you get to 33 you get 2 choices… Girls who don’t grow up and want to party 24/7 and have developed a “who needs men” mentality… Or you can date a girl who hasn’t begun to party and still has some faith in men.

    • Hilda Orduno

      Kitty I am 56 and I get weirded out at the idea of dating someone say 20 years older because that would be very close to my dad’s age, he is 81. So I can see your point for sure.

    • Qin

      What’s the difference between 16 and 18? Discriminating based on age has no moral foundation.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      One is a bit closer to adulthood than the other. Both adolescence.

    • Michael Bell

      It doesn’t matter, federal law is 18 for AOC and federal law supersedes state law. It is illegal. Besides, he lived in CA and the state law is 18 here anyways.

    • Justthefact1

      It is not illegal for him to have dated her in ANY state , if he had sex with her at 16 is where it becomes an issue in some states

    • Hilda Orduno

      Do you seroiusly think a 30 seomthing man dating a little girl is just going to be happy holidng hands and playing video games? I think not.

    • Justthefact1

      Believe it or not some guys 20+ 30+ have more to think about than sex, its not new . but it is legal in allot of states if that should be the case that something did happen for some couples (not them) in a different state . but calling a 16yr old that was advanced and in college with him is offensive actually and calling any later teen yrs, little girl or little boy or child is ridiculous and then add a year or 2 ..and instant switch to full blown adult at 18?

    • WHocares

      Where is your source for the federal law on age of consent? Federal age of consent laws only apply to interstate travel. Which is why it’s illegal ANYWHERE to travel across state lines for the purpose of engaging in sexual relations with a “minor”

    • harrykuheim

      So? It was Illegal a few years go for Gays to marry too…

    • WHocares

      It should be illegal to say how other people should live their lives. Period. That’s a problem in america everyone bases their emotions off of personal experience but the fact remains not every relationship is evil in nature.

    • cezzwho

      Her mother was a “mother” like Lindsey Lohan’s or Drew Barrymore. All about money. Sad.

    • Dave

      So at 17 you can graduate high school and become emancipated, but it should be illegal to date someone 21? Does that sound a little more stupid once you break it down? I love the social police telling people how to live. I know people that are 27 and are less mature than some 17 years olds.

    • Hilda Orduno

      It is not illegal to date – it is illegal to have sex, get the facts straight. It is illegal to have sex not to date.

    • Crubby

      In most states where 16 is the age of consent, sex with a 16-year-old is still a crime if there is more than a 4-year age gap.

    • Justthefact1

      Age of consent 16 “with restrictions” you say in MOST states? …really ..since there are 30 with 16 being age of consent please list off the states with restrictions attached to the age of consent

    • Katie

      In Minnesota 18 and 16 year old is crim sex

    • Tracee F

      Why would her mother have a problem with it? The guy was worth 10 million dollars. You don’t think they were getting a piece of that pie. The mom was probably telling her, “You forgot your birth control pill today, didn’t you? wink wink.”

    • sirus22

      there are no set rules? there are and you just stated them fucktard. oh, okay, lets change the laws because a bunch of sanctimonious uneducated pea brains thinks its dirty and naughty.

    • zFashionizta

      I am completely in agreement with you. That is actually a good suggestion on changing the law which should be country wide.

    • Dev2008

      The rules were written because 16 year old girls or boys are too young to understand what an adult relationship is. They are not equal partners but young and a great deal of the time controlled. In the old days women or rather girls were just arm candy, or used as housekeepers who also were seen as pure sexually. They had the children, cleaned the home, made the meals and not much else They had no thought of actually fulfilling their dreams. Sorry but I don’t think making it legal to date a minor is the answer because it still wouldn’t be young enough and people would be pushing to lower the age.

    • IzzyKiddnya

      “Illegal” — WHY?

    • FarltonFole

      In the state they were in, California, the age of consent is 18.

    • DuchessofDownton

      16 is not the age of consent in most states and especially not in
      California where they conducted this relationship. 18 is the age of consent in most states.

    • Man_Of_Sin
    • DuchessofDownton

      16 is not the age of consent in most states and especially not in
      California where they conducted this relationship. 18 is the age of consent in most states.

      Look… I get that you’re still hot for the dude and your acceptance of a man 33 dating a 16 year girl is uncomfortably squicky at best. Whether or not you dug his looks or his Cool Car Movies is irrelevant. This penchant for severely young girls is an unpleasant personality quirk of the late Mr. Walker’s that I had not wanted to learn he had.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      I posted a link proving you wrong. The 16 is the age of consent in most state. Deal with it. If I am wrong than provide evidence.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Deal with it, you’re in love with a dead man who had a strange proclivity for very young girls. If I am wrong, provide evidence.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      1. Strange? I take it that you are a woman that knows nothing about male sexuality.

      “Mid-to-late adolescents usually have physical characteristics near (or in some cases, identical) to that of full-grown adults; psychiatrist and sexologist Fred Berlin states that most men can find persons in this age group sexually attractive, but that “of course, that doesn’t mean they’re going to act on it. Some men who become involved with teenagers may not have a particular disorder. Opportunity and other factors may have contributed to their behaving in the way they do”.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia#Characteristics

      2. Let me post this again.

      http://www.age-of-consent.info/

    • DuchessofDownton

      I get that you’re in love with a dead man who had a thing for painfully young girls. It’s a disturbing personality quirk that the late Mr. Walker possessed that has sent other men not of his fame, fortune and cool car movies to jail for many years and landed them on a lifetime Sex Offender Registration.

      If it makes you feel better to spin your excuses with some psycho babble…ok… fine. Whatever helps you sleep at night. But for people who have conducted credible studies and for mothers who understand their daughters and actually care for them, there are rules in place that preclude 33 year old men from sleeping with their 16 year old babysitters. If you agree with the late Mr. Walker’s taste in teenagers, that’s your hang up. But that doesn’t make it right.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Science says that it’s pretty normal for men. Credible studies? Here they are saying you’re wrong.

      “Two studies have investigated the association between age difference and aspects of females’ sexual debut. Abma and colleagues used 1995 NSFG data to examine partner age difference in the context of measuring “wantedness” of first intercourse. Their findings suggested that wantedness is inversely related to the age difference between a young woman and her partner, and that it may be related to her limited control over the situation.6 Furthermore, Leitenberg and Saltzman found that among females who had had first sexual intercourse at ages 11-12, those who had a partner five or more years their senior had an elevated risk of attempted suicide, substance abuse and pregnancy. Among females who had had first intercourse between the ages of 13 and 15, having older partners was associated only with truancy. In contrast, among females whose age at first intercourse was 16-18, having older partners was not linked to these negative outcomes. Thus, adverse effects of partner age difference may lessen as females mature.7″

      Source: Sexual Intercourse and the Age Difference Between AdolescentFemales and Their Romantic Partners

    • DuchessofDownton

      Will you give it a friggin’ rest? Normal 33 year old men don’t diddle their 16 year old babysitters. That’s why they have Sex Offender Registrations. Stop trying to justify your thirsts and his tastes.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      If given the chance they would. As I pointed out most men found them attractive. I know I would.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Whether or not men find 16 year old girls attractive is irrelevant. The question is :”Is this the decent thing to do”. The answer is no.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Why isn’t it the decent thing to do? Be objective about this.

    • micaliv

      I actually disagree. Although it is strange that he was dating a girl much younger than him, in actuality he wasn’t doing anything that uncommon especially from a historical outlook. Older men have been marrying much younger girls since forever and its only modern AMERICAN society that even thinks that their is a problem with it.

    • Hilda Orduno

      It is to protect the young girls from the pedophiles that these laws have been enacted. Many of those countries you mention take 8 year old brides when they are in their 50s, I suppose you think that should be legal here also?

    • Kay_Sue

      True to an extent, but he can’t influence her grades or academic future. I’m not saying it’s right–just that that is where the difference lies between the two scenarios. Age of consent laws and statutes are ridiculous, in my opinion. We need something more consistent.

    • ella

      Age of consent laws and statutes are ridiculous? r u joking? Theres a reason we have laws that prohibit an individual to get involved with someone under 18. A 16 years old and an 18 might obv not seem bad but do you not see what goes on in other countries? girls as young as 12 years old marry 40 year old men and theres no law against it. If we didnt have the laws we have here then where would we be? WE already have pedophiles even with all the laws but without it? You would be seeing 14 year old girls pregnant from 30 year old man. Do us all a favor and never get involved in politics.

    • Kay_Sue

      …that is not what I meant at all. “Age of consent laws and statues are ridiculous in my opinion. WE NEED SOMETHING MORE CONSISTENT.” (emphasis added)

      I meant it’s ridiculous that they vary so much from state to state, and that a 17 year old in some states could have to register as a sex offender for the rest of their life for being involved with a 15 year old. Or like the 18 year old high school student in Florida that got in trouble for being with a 14 year old student in the same school, on the same team. It’s also ridiculous that (as pertains to this specific thread) teachers bear the brunt of it, while other professions do not, another facet that can vary from state to state.

      If I’d meant what you thought, I’d probably have said something along the lines of, “We don’t need consent laws at all” versus implying that laws regarding consent should be more consistent.

      Are you just looking for a reason to be outraged?

    • Justthefact1

      America was set up this way so each state is separate and retained its sovereignty and this is how it should be even though sometimes there are glaring differences .

    • Kay_Sue

      Not disputing that. I have a pretty firm grasp of American history and poli-sci. I understand the why. That doesn’t mean we can’t work together and collaborate to come up with more consistent legislation. When some states have an age of consent of 16, others 18, and some states consider anyone over the age of consent a sex offender regardless of the age of that individual, then it is maybe time that we look at creating a more consistent playbook for us all to live with.

    • Justthefact1

      i do agree with more consistency ..

    • WHocares

      If you have a firm grasp on poli-sci you would realize that the government cant even agree on 90% of the issues… and no one wants to have to have a discussion about this. Pretty much because anyone who says 16 is a good age of consent will be labeled a pedophile by the media. It wont even be a fair debate.

      It’s better to just let the past arrests based on states dictate the law. If you have 1000 people in a community all having sex with 16 yr olds (and no rape involved)… 16 is fine but if you only have 1-2 it’s apparent it’s not needed.

    • dmasz91

      i agree that the differing laws between states are ridiculous…but people are so dumb, that even if the whole country went under the same law, it’ll b something ridiculous like age of consent being 17, when it really shud b more like 13 or sumthing. no one can agree on anything. and really even then it shudn’t even b 13 across the board becuz many but not all females are stil too imature at that point and it depends on the person. if we cud all move around easier, i think we shud have states ranging from age of consent 13-18 and have people just live in whatever state matches their beliefs better lol .

    • Jasmine

      *I *should *be *something *shouldn’t *because *could

      Seriously. I think the age of consent for stupid text-speak should be… never.

    • Justthefact1

      Maybe the person is on the phone, its a fucking forum not an English class

    • WHocares

      It should be based on the individual there’s 30 yr olds who shouldn’t be having sexual relationships.

    • Christeeeeeen

      Are you serious? First of all, you write like the very people these laws are meant to protect. Secondly, calling girls and/or women “females” is disgusting. There are females of every species and you’re talking about 13-year-old girls like they’re dogs in heat. The laws are set at the ages they are to cover all possibilities. Just because *you* think you’ve met 13-year-olds who don’t seem immature doesn’t mean they’re prepared to deal with the consequences of getting into a sexual relationship. Judging from your writing style, I’m guessing you’re not ready either.

    • Justthefact1

      Oh writing style is what makes someone ready or not .and calling girls/women females is disgusting …oh my GOD!! but i bet calling boys/men males is not in your book right science calls them females and males as well so maybe you should do a shout out at them and have the label changed?

      How about proving the statement she made false if you can instead of bypassing it with insults?
      The women (this includes your classification of girls which is why I am sure she used the definition FEMALE because she disagrees that they should be called girls and females in this context is proper, like it or not. ) she is talking about ..some that are young are and were of age to marry as is shown through all history ..how so? they held those marriages, raised children ..right? ..NOW ..why all of a sudden in America are they not old enough (ie 16 for my example) almost ever!?
      like somehow they all magically lost their minds and will and cannot possibly be ready for marriage at a young age .. you seem to be far more insulting to your cause than are helpful..

    • dmasz91

      what’s wrong with a 14 yr old getting pregnant by a 30 yr old man? it’s not less moral than her getting pregnant from a 15 yr old boy which is way more common these days in high school. at least the older guy wants commitment usually and the young guys just want to screw around and leave afterward. now many young girls have child support cuz of it. as long as it’s about love and marriage, there’s no grounds to say 14 and 30 is morally wrong for marriage. ur basis for believing that wud b weak at best. the great thing about freedom in america is that people have the choice to b with someone by consent. you can’t compare it to other countries where it is wrong only becuz the kid is usually prepubescent and does not giv consent, only to later get abused and is sold by parents for money or wtv. that’s not the case here.

    • WHocares

      Because DUH! the 30 yr old can afford the baby(in theory) that’s why it’s wrong……oh wait.. you mean that’s a pro?

    • cmf1267

      What’s the age of consent in California? In Michigan it is 16 so it may be 16 in California.

    • MP

      Well sad to let you know, it totally depends on what state. Each state has a different age of consent just like in some states you can marry your cousin!

    • dmasz91

      not sure wut u mean, my older man has helped me get better grades actually. couples help each other. i agree that age of consent laws are ridiculous tho

    • K-Rob

      He can’t influence her grades or academic future?! You’re joking, right? At 16 years old, you’re up to your eyeballs in hormones and fanciful notions of what goes on in the real world. Enter Paul Walker looking the way he has his entire life (i.e. gorgeous) and his attention is on YOU, of all people. He’s rich, he’s famous, and completely edible. He wants you. Are you telling me if you were in her shoes and Paul Walker (or any other celeb you find dreamy) told you to drop out of school and run of to Hollywood with him where he will see to it that you live out the rest of your life among Hollywood royalty never having a financial care in the world…..that you would seriously say, “Um…can I get a rain check?”

      If your answer to this is that you would refuse him you’re either lying out of your ass or a lesbian, in which case, I pose the same question but replace Paul Walker with the female celeb you find dreamy.

    • pause for a second

      It’s fair to remember, in this situation, he didn’t influence her grades or academic future. She continued on to college.

    • K-Rob

      This is true. Honestly, I’m just not sure how to feel about a 33 year old pursuing an intimate romantic relationship with a 16 year old. Forget that it was Paul Walker, any 33 year old would bug me out. But, speaking of Paul Walker, I have a feeling if Channing Tatum (33) was showing an interest in pursuing Meadow, Paul’s 15 year old daughter, Paul would hardly be so approving.

      Regardless of what we, as individuals, feel is morally correct or not, the fact remains that in California, it’s against the law.

    • Qin

      A rich person can’t date poor people anymore? Obviously, in any situation with a difference between class and wealth, there’s going to be a power difference.

    • WHocares

      There’s a power differential no matter what the age he could be dating a 90 yr old woman and banging her silly just because he’s rich. 16 is a perfectly acceptable age to make your own decisions.

    • thatgirl

      Except he wasn’t a rich, famous actor 7 years ago.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      No they are not. It a conflict of interest for a teacher to have sex with a student.

    • FarltonFole

      Paul Walker is no different than the guys you see on Dateline NBC.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Dateline never used 16 year olds because they are legal in most states and countries.

    • Justthefact1

      exactly

    • gross

      Sounds like you study the topic there, “Man of Sin.” Lemme guess: you’re a creeper, dirty old man yourself.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      I’m 23 years old. I’m still an adolescent myself, lol.

    • FarltonFole

      No. You are wrong Mr. Pedophile. If you like the idea of 33 year olds hooking up with 16 year olds, you might as well join NAMBLA.

    • Chowchilla

      That’s a total load of crap! Who in the hell are any of you to pass judgement on this man? But you FF, you win the prize. Biggest A hole today.

    • FarltonFole

      You are a typical NAMBLA supporter. I just don’t like pedophiles; excuse me for being crazy and not liking the idea of a 16 year old being taken advantage of by a 33 year old grown ass man.

    • Guest

      How about if Paul Walker age 33 was the local garbageman dating a 16 year old girl….

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Chris_Hansen_Will_Get_You_by_xXHeatherXD.jpg

    • Man_Of_Sin

      16 years old are legal to have sex with in most states.

    • Tiff

      But he wasn’t he was a well respected actor…

    • Man_Of_Sin

      6 years old are legal to have sex with in most states.

    • Juan Alvaro Cepeda

      BOOM! Josey got told! LOL

    • lena

      Actors should still follow ethical guidelines!
      sick creep is still a sick creep.

    • Morisco

      Good Kay…please teach him !

    • Joe bob

      Yes, admittedly Walker’s relationship is creepy. If one of my teen girls brought him home–nope!

    • Christina R. Ayala-Mujica

      So, life outside of school isn’t guided by ethical guidelines? This was once a child, who clearly looked up to this guy. DIDN’T HE COERCE, INFLUENCE, OR LEAD HER IN A WAY SHE SHOULD’VE BEEN LEFT TO DEVELOP INTO MATURITY FIRST?

    • Jess Jack

      You are completely right. Teachers are seen as authority figures and they are bound by ethical guidelines to maintain proper relationship with students. They are to set examples and deliver education in a fair and objective way.

    • KED

      That’s about the dumbest piece of shit I’ve ever hear. All adults are responsibility in this society to protect “children” and that girl was a damn child. Whether you’re a teacher, administrator, bus driver or construction worker, banker, or grocer……no one should be fucking children….that’s asinine….we are a civilized society….not some war torn third world country run by dictators….

    • JD ESQ

      hmmmmmmm….the age of consent in California is 18…..do your research before posting crap like this…..I’m sad the guy died, however he was committing statutory rape…..if he wanted to marry her while she is underage, then her parents/guardians would have to sign a letter of “consent” and have it notarized….I know as I am a dependency lawyer in Los Angeles….

    • Justthefact1

      How do you know he was committing statutory rape? Nowhere did i see it say he was having sex with her when she was 16 . So what crime is there here? None.

    • debbie hodgdon

      our culture sucks for ostracizing teachers especially for normal things

    • Kelly

      So you are in favor of high school teachers fucking their students… wow.

    • Justthefact1

      wow really what a mouth you have there kelly ..there are obviously children reading this (16 yr olds) watch out or the soap comes out next time ..

    • debbie hodgdon

      obviously i’m not talking about prepubescent students but people who are mature enough. i know teachers hav a certain responsibiility but many teachers like in college are near the age of their college students or even if they’re older they’re people too, they shudnt have a bigger alarm over their heads for being a teacher vs a person in the street

    • TheShowgirl

      What exactly does “mature enough” mean? Mature enough to menstruate? Mature enough to want to have sex? Mature enough to understand and cope with the realities of a sexual relationship? Who judges this maturity and deems the party “mature enough”?

      The fact of the matter is teachers shouldn’t be banging their students because it creates a huge conflict of interest. Why should Suzy get to breeze through Calculus because she’s sleeping with the teacher while I have to study my ass off? Like it or not, that’s how that situation will go down and it’s not fair to the people who actually work for good grades. I went back to school two years ago and they made it crystal clear that we were not allowed to fraternize with the instructors outside of school. Everyone enrolled was over 18 but the rule was still in place because (you guessed it) it’s a conflict of interest!

      Educational ethics aside, the fact that you’re basically rationalizing adults having sexual relationships with kids is frankly, creepy as hell. I don’t care how “mature enough” a 16 year old seems, most don’t grasp the intricacies and problems that can arise from a sexual relationship. Were you making sound choices at 16? From the sound of your post now,
      I’d say hell no you weren’t because you’re romanticizing some creepy behavior like it’s a plot line of a Harlequin novel. Love doesn’t conquer all. If you’re a 32 year old and so in love with a 16 year old, love will wait if it’s true, no? Wait two years and go to town.

      *I’m not talking about Walker’s situation per se, but in fact commenting on teachers having sex with their students.

    • Justthefact1

      “Who judges this maturity and deems the party “mature enough”?

      Apparently you seem to think you know and you feel 16 is not the age.. however my state says 16 IS mature enough and is the age. your definition of what a kid is is like someones definition of a 12 year old helpless and naive lol..well my state disagrees with you. as a matter a fact quite a few states do

    • TheShowgirl

      Was I talking about what state laws I disagree with? Did I ask anyone “Hey, what state do you live in and what’s the age of consent so we can debate it?” No. I don’t care what your state deems legal nor was I speaking about statutory rape and consent laws in general. I was speaking specifically about teacher/student relationships that the creepster above was defending. I just happened to use the 32/16 age because it’s in the article and was on my brain. I’m fairly certain I even left a sentence at the end of my comment stating that I was commenting about that ONE scenario. Yup….just checked. I sure as hell did.

      Judging by your comment, which clearly shows a lack of basic reading comprehension skills and the hallmark of idiocy – “lol” – it would behoove your state to focus on laws regarding the education of teens.

    • Justthefact1

      Ok, points i had gotten out of this..

      “obviously i’m not talking about prepubescent students but people who are
      mature enough. i know teachers hav a certain responsibiility but many
      teachers like in college are near the age of their college students or
      even if they’re older they’re people too, they shudnt have a bigger
      alarm over their heads for being a teacher vs a person in the street”

      the above quote is from Debbie..

      Now, here is your starting reply ..

      “What exactly does “mature enough” mean? Mature enough to menstruate?
      Mature enough to want to have sex? Mature enough to understand and cope
      with the realities of a sexual relationship? Who judges this maturity
      and deems the party “mature enough”?”

      hmm.. something looks odd… she is talking college students here and last i checked they are mainly 18-22yr olds ..which i gave you benefit of the doubt that you read this and still replied how you did ..taking also these key words from you

      “What exactly does “mature enough” mean? Mature enough to menstruate?

      since you seem to be against the post above,I assume that you feel you know the age (what i got is 18 as shown down bottom) since you obviously disagree with 16 being the age to choose an older mate.

      “Was I talking about what state laws I disagree with?”

      Yes actually you were talking about that since the state law says that it is 16 30 states say this .. I mean, do you agree with 16? (na)

      I figured it was my civil duty(not really) to enlighten you on the age that the majority of states already gave and your welcome to attempt to change this age of course..

      “If you’re a 32 year old and so in love with a 16 year old, love will wait if it’s true, no? Wait two years and go to town.”

      here you say 32 and 16 i know your reason for the statement as you clarified and i will say first most states say you do not have to wait …and you can restate your not talking about state laws and we can disagree again because allot of people follow these laws and do accordingly society is guided by quite a few laws …true?

      now i do show that your idea of mature enough is 18 and i am not misreading and it felt a bit contradictory to your initial statement about “Who judges this maturity and deems the party “mature enough”?”

      your finishing sentence shows your disagreement with 16 and also seems to clearly show you think 18 is the “magic” age or you would not have said wait 2 years in the above quote..true? because that statement has nothing to do with stumbling on the article it is a “gut statement”

      *I’m not talking about Walker’s situation “PER SE”, but in fact commenting on teachers having sex with their students.

      your final sentence does not actually negate your referencing Paul btw

      use of the word “per se”

      myself… If a couple can legally be together and both are happy everyone should stfu

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Teacher-student relationships are illegal regardless of age.

    • whiteroses

      Speaking as a former teacher, of people who weren’t that much younger than me- no, having sex with your student is not normal. It’s a breach of trust, not only of the trust that your students have placed in you but of the trust that their parents (in some cases) place in you. How can you grade fairly when your Saturday night date is taking your midterm? Hello, completely shattered credibility.

    • debbie hodgdon

      i get that point, but still when it happens out of love, a teacher shudnt be put in prison double time for it, they shud at least get the chance to stop being a teacher at that school and still get to b wit the person

    • Cee

      Nope.

      It is never out of love.

      Students are young, impressionable and need understanding that they may not get from home. They trust their educators sometimes because they don’t feel loved or heard at home.
      Then teachers take advantage of that. They take advantage of the knowledge they gain from a student’s trust. They take advantage as the adult, knowing what they are doing and are in full control. They take advantage because they can access their personal information and use it to their advantage. They take advantage because they have money, car…anything a teenager (because I am assuming you mean a teenager and a teacher falling in love) would want and give it to them.

      A teacher holds a position of power over a child and to act upon any feelings is taking advantage of that power and of the child.

      Sure, a teacher can quit their job, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that what they are doing is creepy and awful.

    • Justthefact1

      Wow, because students are impressionable and teachers could use this … this means in conclusion it is never about love. Is this basically what you are saying?? look … 8 likes for you lol, I guess it is not about the “quality” of your argument but the emotional impact of it lol..

    • whiteroses

      No. So many levels of no. Something tells me you’ve been watching FAR too many episodes of “Pretty Little Liars’.

      As a teacher, I spent more time with some of my students than their parents did. It would have been pretty damned predatory of me to take advantage of some of the kids I met- incredibly lonely, desperate for an adult (any adult) to validate them. And for the most part, teacher student relationships involve a very sick adult and a child who has no idea what they’re getting into. School is supposed to be a safe place for a kid to learn, grow and figure out who they want to be. It’s not a freaking dating service.

      As a mother, if I knew that my son’s teacher had been fired for having a relationship with a student? Not only would I get my kid out of that classroom so quickly nobody would remember he was there in the first place, but I would do my utmost to make sure they were fired. Maybe it’s because I have an educational background, but I feel perfectly comfortable being incredibly judgemental about it.

    • dmasz91

      wow u sound pretty egoistic as a teacher i wud’v hated to be ur student knowing that’s how u thot of me or ur students…as if i were looking for someone to validate me…plz…i neva saw my teachers that way and i neva felt vulnerable to teachers. i felt like they’re just ordinary people.and no i’ve never watched pretty little liars and i actually dont like to watch much tv, but aparently u’v watched it. i was never even talking about teachers taking advantage of students…i was just saying that if one person might come along who god actually wants u to be with, and at that point there wud b no doubt in ur mind that the relationship was right. i just think god wudnt do that to that many teachers because if the trouble he knows wud happen to them, but it’s only because the educational system makes these laws. there shud b an outlet to negotiate what to do when something like that happens, and figute it out peacefullly, not throwing sumone in jail if they’re clearly not a mentally sick teacher (grant that some are by they’re besides the point).

      ” School is supposed to be a safe place for a kid to learn, grow and
      figure out who they want to be. It’s not a freaking dating service”

      o but it actually is becuz people are sleeping around with each other in high school anyway and i bet most parents aren’t aware of even half the relationships their kid has. but for the kid to have a relationship with another kid their own age is usually the worst case scenario becuz the other person wud b just as immature and/or not wanting to settle down yet and more likely to use the person. i was talking about the few exceptions where a serious relationship is at hand, not something about sex where a teacher just wants to sleep wit a student. that’s obviously not what i’m talking about. u just assume that

    • whiteroses

      So basically what you’re telling me is that every single person on the face of the planet feels exactly the same way about their teachers that you did. That makes a ton of sense.

      The first thing you learn in education courses is to respect the student-teacher boundary. The main reason for that is to keep your credibility/authority/trust that you’ve built with other students intact. As “cool” as people make these types of relationships (ipso facto my reference to “Pretty Little Liars”) they are wrong. And speaking as a mother- I couldn’t possibly care less if a 33 year old woman thinks that God wants her to be with my 16 year old son. I suggest reading 2 Corinthians 2: 14, and focus on the bit that states that righteousness has no relationship with lawlessness. We can probably infer that God doesn’t smile on relationships that are universally illegal.

      Do I really need to explain to you the difference between two students having a relationship with each other versus a student and a teacher having a relationship? Really?

      Also- some of the sting goes out of your insults when I have to read the sentences twice because of your text-speak.

    • dmasz91

      wow u being a teacher huh? i cud see u dont have much ability to think outside ur box.(based on other comments u’v sed below)

    • whiteroses

      When it comes to a situation like this? No, I don’t. Thanks though.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      The media generally ignores male teachers on female students relationships.

    • Qin

      There’s a clear difference.

      Teachers have legitimate power over their students by affecting their grades. Walker has no such power. There’s no way for him to legitimately blackmail his girlfriend into having sex with him, whereas a teacher can be perceived to abuse his power to gain favours.

      A CEO dating his secretary can be sued for sexual harassment, whereas there’s probably nothing wrong with him dating an equally poor girl outside the corporation.

    • Josey

      I’ll defer to E. Sue Blume (“Secret Survivors”) a therapist who works with those who have been abused by pedophiles and ephebophiles such as Walker:

      “As long as the child is induced into sexual activity with someone who is
      in a position of greater power, whether that power is derived through
      the perpetrator’s age, size, status, or relationship, the act is
      abusive.”

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.

      Where were you then?

      Bet more than half of the women posting here would be all over Brad Pitt the
      Statutory Rapist given the chance.

    • WHocares

      That and he was doing nothing illegal………And i 100% agree with you.. there’s no reason teachers should be held by different standards just because they could IN THEORY offer grades for favors……

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.

      Never saw all the Outrage from these “ladies” then.

      Bet more than half of the women posting here would be all over Brad Pitt the
      Statutory Rapist given the chance.

    • sirus22

      Another self righteous sanctimonious pea brain. You may want to look into the history of the entire world my friend “a symptom of our decadent culture”? Yeah because man hasn’t been attracted to the beauty of youth since the inception of time right? Jesus you people are so ignorant you reek of stupidity.

    • Josey

      You should really look up these terms before you start bandying them about: Self-righteous and sanctimonious. And when you’re done with that why don’t you look up paraphilia. Then go look up a good psychiatrist so you can get some help with your mental problems.

    • RylanG

      If the teacher is a ‘he’ but if it is a ‘she’ then the law tends not to come down so harshly.

  • gothicgaelicgirl

    I got with my partner when I was 19. He was 32. We’re very happy and to be honest we couldn’t care who dislikes it. =P

    • aemccarthy

      19 is different than 16! You have graduated high school, you have likely worked a more-than-part-time job…you’ve been able to make decisions without grown-ups telling you what to do!

    • gothicgaelicgirl

      lol you try telling that to the people who accused me of being a homewrecker, throwing food at me in the street and add a few kids into the mix.
      Also I was actually with someone who was 21 when I was 15, he was a wonderful man whom my parents loved so this underage thing is bull.
      Kids are going to date who they want, whether you want them to or not.
      I do worry about my girls but only because I know their father is one f those “come near my daughter and the shotgun comes out” kinda guys, but he’s loosening up. (I aim to get him to allow them to date by the time they’re…oh…maybe 20) =P

      I loved that 21 year old very very much and we were together for two lovely years.
      My parents never did have a problem with me dating him despite him being older. Someone called the police on him once and they actually defended him. Thei reasoning was at least it’s someone they know treats me right, is involved with my schoolwork with me and someone I’ve known my entire life.

    • Cindybreeding

      Your parents sound like hillbillies to me. you don’t see Kennedy’s getting married to a young gal under the legal age. when another hillbilly parents think its okay for their 16 yr. old daughter to get hooked up with a 33 year old in California. That is wrong. We are talking about under age 16 not 18 & thats when its considered consensual sex in California not 16. They are both from and live in California period (.) . They are not from hillbilly state…get it?

    • dmasz91

      judging people wit the word “hillbilly”…u wana call PW’s relationship creepy…u urself are something worse than creepy in other people’s opinion

    • Man_Of_Sin

      I graduated highschool after my 19th birthday.

    • dmasz91

      what does job and skool hav anything to do with relationship quality? someone has made up some fake rules in her head.

    • Cindybreeding

      You don’t care cause i can tell you know nothing more and care nothing about it. Quality education makes a whole lot of difference, but you probably gave tat up o raise your kids. Plz correct me if I’m wrong.

    • jskittykins

      You’re really ridiculous with assuming that all young women who marry older men are hillbillies or uneducated. I am 20 and my husband is 29. He holds an advanced degree in math from a very good school, and I am close to graduating from a school well-ranked in my area of study. I actively pursue my goals by working, internships, special projects etc. Stop ASSuming that young marriage means you can’t pursue an education.

    • dmasz91

      i’d rather have a good husband and no education than education and no husband that treats me right, even if he is older. in the end, school is just another worldly object that doesn’t really mean a thing.

  • http://www.fantabulouslyfrugal.com/ FantabulouslyFrugal.com

    I think it was news when she was underage, and it was reported in quite a few news sources. I was very uncomfortable with it at the time, but it appears that their relationship has withstood the test of time. At this point, no, I don’t really agree with this being a “news” story. I’m not a weird Paul Walker groupie or anything, I just think it was news at the time and the age of his girlfriend 7 years ago isn’t really relevant now.

  • Kay_Sue

    Not condoning it at all, and it weirds me out too, but 16 is the age of consent in a lot of places. There’s a good chance what he was doing wasn’t illegal at all, at least in most states, including the one that I am in currently.

  • Ned Stark’s Bastard

    Any reason this is at all relevant at this point other than to give yourself more clicks on your article because of his passing? 19 and 20 year old guys date 16 year old girls all the time. Should we be outraged at the fact that the age difference was so big? I’m sure she was perfectly capable of making the decision even though she was 16 and she decided to stay with him after she turned 18. So no I’m neither shocked nor disgusted.

    • FarltonFole

      You like the idea of a 33 year old grown ass man preying on a 16 year old? You must be part of NAMBLA.

    • Ned Stark’s Bastard

      Your statement makes no sense. As to how you came upon the knowledge that he preyed upon her I’d love to know. And no I’m not a part of NAMBLA nor do I intend to be, I’m 17 btw. And if you were to ask other 16 and 17 year old now a days if we think we’re capable of deciding who we want to be in a relationship with you’ll find that the answer is yes because we can.

    • FarltonFole

      A 33 year old man wanting to date a 16 year old teenager is a pedophile. End of story. He just wanted to fuck some kids. He has nothing in common with a 16 year old beyond sex. 33 year old men pay bills and have tend to have children of their own.

    • Zaina777

      You are an idiot. It clearly wasn’t just about sex. Pedophiles don’t get the parent’s consent and they don’t say that they know that they were the one. You really are an imbecile.

    • FarltonFole

      Wrong. Some do get parent consent, like Paul Walker. How could a grown ass man–a movie actor–possibly relate to a 16 year old high schooler? The man is a predator; get over it. No normal 33 year old in their right mind goes around dating 16 year olds. If he went to the police and told them who he was dating, he would be investigated for statutory rape, because the age of consent is 18 in California. Sorry. The only imbecile here is you.

    • Zaina777

      No, actually you are the imbecile. You idiot everybody is different just because he was attractive foesn’t mean that was what he though t matterd in his life. Again, his mannerisms and personality weren’t your typical 33 or 40 year olds mannerisms. You are stereoptyping him because of his age and his overall attractiveness. There are worse people out there than Paul Walker. Also, if the really was a predator the girls parents would have come foward.You are basically saying if you are a god looking, average actor you can get away with anything. Not necessarily. Looks don’t overwrite anything else. If he was a bad influence it would have been evident to all of them from the get go. You are an idiot.

    • FarltonFole

      Wrong again. He is a child predator. Just because he wants to have sex with young girls doesn’t make him a mean person. It just means he is a pervert. Her parents are probably simple minded people who think like every other set of parents that allow their underage daughter to date grown men. This is why there are laws that protect children from these kinds of people. That doesn’t change the fact that she is underage, and that he is a grown man dating a high schooler. You went to high school. How normal would it be to bring a 33 year old man to a school dance?

    • Zaina777

      Do you know if he had sex with her right away? He must have right?. Just because he was a certain age and was very attractive doesn’t mean they had to say yes. I believe they got to know him and saw that he was a nice guy. Everybody’s different. You are very naive and ignorant.

    • FarltonFole

      I didn’t say they had sex right away. I’m implying he was attracted to her sexually. This is one of the bases of dating–finding the partner attractive. You can justify it anyway you want, you still know I’m right, which is why you ignored my question. Paul Walker is a child predator. End of story. You went to high school. How normal would it be to bring a 33 year old man to a school dance?

    • Zaina777

      What question? Are you serious ? Have you seen the girl she is average at best. If Paul Walker wanted pretty or hot he wouldn’t have picked her. He is not a child predator. Also, the girl could have said no you know. Not all females are victims and not all males are the pursuers. You don’t know their story so you have no right to judge him or her. Had this have been Doug and Courtney I would totally agree with you. It isn’t though and the man isn’t here to defend his actions they are so go after them not Paul and Jasmine, alright.

    • FarltonFole

      The question, because you simply cannot read properly: “How normal would it be to bring a 33 year old man to a high school dance with a 16 year old?”

      Mind you, this is why there are laws to protect children from minds like you. People justifying these kinds of things is why there are groups like NAMBLA. They say the same things you say.

    • Zaina777

      No I can read perfectly thank you. Who said she ever did that. Maybe she was wise beyond her years. Again, you are stereotyping teenagers as a whole.

    • FarltonFole

      I didn’t say she did you moron. I’m asking you if that would be normal.

    • Zaina777

      No, what I am saying is that you think all teenagers want to go to school dances. When I was sixteen I didn’t care for any of that.

    • FarltonFole

      That has nothing to do with the question. Whether or not some kids go to dances, or like eating spaghetti is irrelevant. The question was: How normal would it be for a 16 year old to bring a 33 year old man to a high school dance?

      Can you answer the question? (This is your third attempt.)

    • Zaina777

      It’s not my fault you can’t comprehend simple shit. High School dances are meant for teenage boys and girls to mingles. Chances are a sixteen year old dating a thirty-three year old must have thought boys her ages were immature and childish. Therefore, she wouldn’t bring a thirty-three year old man there anyway. She would probably want to do something more mature that both of them can enjoy.

    • FarltonFole

      Let’s try again. I’m not talking about Paul and the girl, I’m speaking in general. (Let’s think critically here.)

      I’ll word it more easily for you :) “Out of the people that do go to school dances, how normal would it be for a 16 year old to bring a 33 year old man?”

    • Zaina777

      You don’t get what I am saying. Generally speaking most teenage girls are more mature than teenage boys.

    • FarltonFole

      You aren’t answering the question. “Out of the people that do go to school dances, how normal would it be for a 16 year old to bring a 33 year old man?”

    • Justthefact1

      that question is irrelevant to right or wrong . would it be normal for someone to bring a checker set to a chess game is it normal to go to the beach fully clothed swimming with your shoes on ..normal does not make right or wrong, nor does Paul dating a 16 yr make him a pedophile because your definition is wrong ..AND it is not illegal for him to have dated look up the laws you are so fondly tossing out there he can date her at 16 as long as he did not have sex with her and unless you saw them having sex then your case is closed .

    • FarltonFole

      Hey Zaina. This is my last reply to you. I understand it’s hard for you to read and comprehend things, so I put it in simple facts.

      Fact 1. The age of consent where they were is 18. Paul Walker is legally a child predator.

      Fact 2. You have never met Paul nor the girl mentioned. Your ideas of how their relationship came about and how it existed is pure imagination.

      Fact 3. Your justifications are the same justifications used in NAMBLA. “Maybe she was wise beyond her years.” is something a pedophile would say.

      Have a nice new year. Paul Walker is dead, and he was legally a child predator. And in my opinion a terrible actor. PS: He wouldn’t date you if he was alive; stop celebrating a person who could care less if you died today–it makes you look like a groupie.

    • Zaina777

      You are an idiot. Have you met them no you idiot. Just because I like him doesn’t mean I want to date him. Also, he was a better person than you will ever be, sweetheart.. You are such a hypocrite. If you were really concerned about people dating people underage. Look up the people who are still living right now, today. You are just a bandwagoner.

    • FarltonFole

      Wrong. I simply don’t like the idea of people like yourself who glorify a pedophile. Also, you stated no facts, thus, you are the most idiotic by definition (if you understand the word). You have no clue what I do in real life, and are just assuming things because you lack critical thinking skills.

      Here’s another fact: Paul Walker has dated MULTIPLE 16 year olds. Once when he was 28 (Aubrianna Atwell) and again when he was 33 (Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell).

      One more fact, lol: You have a dead child predator as your screen name icon, who never knew you even existed. And for some strange reason, you think it’s cool. You are an idiot of profound proportion.

    • Zaina777

      Two girls…he is not a pedophile look up the definition you moron and was he not an actor that is why is he my photo. Go back to kindergartemn and stay there loser.

    • debbie hodgdon

      we’re just in a dumbed down society where everyone listens to what everyone else says and just blindly believes it without giving it any original thought. if the movies show all older guys being with a younger girl as being an only sexual, predatory situation, then the “sheeple” will associate every age gap relationship with negative emotions. it’s not really “preying” on a person unless that really is the case, but there are many instances where the 2 can be together and “preying” on someone is NOT in fact the case. how can u sheeple generalize everything like that and take pride in ur intelligence at the same time?

    • FarltonFole

      You need Hooked on Phonics. Also, a 33 year old man wanting to date a 16 year old is a pedophile. End of discussion. A 33 year old man typically has bills to pay and children of his own; the last thing he should be doing is looking for girls in high school to fuck.

    • Justthefact1

      lmao! Hooked on phonics hehehe..

  • http://miss-greeneyes.blogspot.com/ Miss Green Eyes

    She WAS underage in the U.S, 7 years ago. Right now she’s a grieving woman who has just suffered a terribly shocking and devastating loss, not sure how this article is necessary right now.

    • Josey

      We just had an instance this year of a guy in Cleveland holding three women prisoner for ten years. It was all about power and control. In the case 33 year-old child predator, Paul Walker, whose victim is a 16 year-old child, it was also all about power and control. So I suppose with the suicide of fellow child predator, Ariel Castro, that his victims should also be feeling “a terribly shocking and devastating loss.” Wow!

    • http://mrda.wordpress.com MRDA

      Big difference between consensual encounters between two age-gapped folk and kidnapping. Guess you missed that distinction.

    • Robert

      Although Jasmine wasn’t kidnapped by Paul, presumably. Children are not able to give consent and in some states a sixteen year old is considered a child. Hence, the reason it’s a crime to have sex with them whether they “want” to or not. Duh.

    • Justthefact1

      In SOME states however these states disagree with you

      age of consent 16 (30): Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut,
      District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky,
      Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi,
      Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio,
      Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota,
      Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

      Only 11 have age of consent at 18. so the majority of states do not agree with your idea that a 16 year old is a child

    • dmasz91

      people who put a 16 yr old under the child category are just power hungry adults. if society were run like that to treat 16 yr olds as children even more than they already are, we probly wudnt have people in the military til at least 25 haha or people driving til 25 whichever

    • dmasz91

      it’s still a retarded law put in place by dumb people. america wasn’t founded on those principles

    • http://miss-greeneyes.blogspot.com/ Miss Green Eyes

      I meant that the issue should have been addressed at the time, but thanks for assuming that I consider a 7 year relationship with someone over the age of consent in many states and countries to be the same as a kidnapper/rapist/murderer. I don’t consider a 16 year old to be a child.

    • JeBeBe

      You wait till you have a 16 year old yourself. Then we’ll see if you consider them to be a child or not….

    • FarltonFole

      The age of consent is 18 in Cali. This is why we have laws to protect underage children from people like you. If you think it’s cool for men in their mid 30s to date kids in their mid-teens, you should sign up for NAMBLA.

    • Benita

      I highly doubt that anyone close to Paul Walker is currently reading The Gloss, so your White Knighting isn’t being read by anyone who cares.

      We have a tendency to turn the recently deceased into instant saints, this guy was a C level actor at best and he was on morally shaky ground himself deciding that it was good idea to date a sixteen year old when he was in his thirties, so go ahead and write about it, I’m ok with it.

  • Josh Michtom

    It bears mentioning that 30 states in the U.S., along with England and Wales, set the age of consent at 16 when the older person is not in a position of trust with the younger person (e.g. teacher, coach, therapist, &c.). So depending on where Walker and Pilchard-Gosnell consummated their romance, she was probably not “underage” from a legal perspective. We can certainly still argue about whether such a relationship is healthy and whether the power dynamics are inherently problematic, but we should keep in mind that a number of legislatures have decided that the conduct in question isn’t so clearly wrong as to warrant criminal punishment.

  • aemccarthy

    So, it’s creepy when it’s the old guy from Lost and Courtney Stodden, but not creepy when it’s Paul Walker?

    • Josey

      Of course in the eyes of these misanthropes, if the relationship “works out” then it’s all somehow okay.

    • http://mrda.wordpress.com MRDA

      It’s clear you don’t know what “misanthrope” means.

    • lester jones

      If the guy is hot and charming anything’s OK

    • EmpatheticGirl

      Oh, were you being sarcastic in this case? This is the comment I was referring to from this discussion: http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-12-02/whoa-paul-walkers-girlfriend-jasmine-pilchard-gosnell-was-just-16-when-they-began-dating/ – do correct me if I’m wrong.

    • lester jones

      youre upset that she stole him from you

    • EmpatheticGirl

      What? Why would you assume such a thing? I was just asking a normal question in a normal tone (no bad emotions) since I’m not sure if I intercepted your comment right.

    • Popgirl

      Paul Walker was 33, not 53. That guy was twenty years older than Paul. Come on. Paul Walker didn’t turn the girl into a fame ho and warp her. Paul’s girlfriend is in college, creating her own identity, growing, not out getting tons of plastic surgery and selling herself to any publication.
      Discussing him dating her at 16 is one thing, but comparing their relationsip to that Courtney Stodden saga is laughable.

    • Jessica Anne Pinon

      like

    • Jessica Anne Pinon

      the girl doesnt seem like a total superficial idiot bimbo bitch walking around in slutty clothing everywhere she goes….

    • Katonine

      Maybe if Doug Hutchison dies, it’ll get glossed over like with Walker. Death turns celebrities into saints.

    • grizpapa

      Was it creepy when Brad Pitt(26) was dating Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.

      Are you running around calling Pitt a pedophile now?

  • MammaSweetpea

    Honestly, I don’t see how it’s relevant now. If she was 16 right now, then it would be an issue. She is very much of age now. The man has JUST DIED, how bout we let this go.

    • FarltonFole

      Because he is a child predator. He is no different than the guys you see on Dateline NBC.

    • Justthefact1

      glad to see you made yourself judge jury and executioner ..when i was 16 i knew damn well who i wanted to be with and who not .they made a choice and they stayed with that choice for 7 years showing that someone of that age can stay with their choice shes 23 now move along nothing to see here ..

    • debbie hodgdon

      like i sed…someone watches too much tv, proving my point. ya there are true horror stories, but horror doesn’t apply to every story

    • MammaSweetpea

      Ok. Let’s say he WAS a child predator. Why didn’t this come up last week, or last month? Because he’s died, and now everyone who can is going to be digging up whatever they can on his life. No one gave a fig while he was alive, while he was shooting 6 Fast and The Furious movies, and Hours, and doing philanthropic work. While he was walking around and able to explain himself. And I’m not condoning or condemning his actions. My point is, he’s dead, it really doesn’t matter NOW how old his girlfriend is.

    • Guest

      NO one knew last week.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      This was news years ago.

    • MammaSweetpea

      Well I’m sure SOMEONE knew. If he was out and around with this person, I’m sure it wasn’t a secret. It just wasn’t an issue until he died, or else someone would have said something. And my point is, it makes no sense to be all shocked and horrified now, the guy is gone. Nothing to be done about it.

    • FarltonFole

      I just hate that fact that people keep celebrating him as if he was some kind of hero. The man publically dated multiple 16 year olds; once when he was 28 and again when he was 33. He is the definition of a child predator.

      If people keep posting RIP Paul Walker online, we are free to discuss his pedophile nature online as well. That’s all. Have a nice day. :)

    • Guest

      Paul would of been one Chris Hansen would appear when he came to pick up the 16 year old for a date.

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Chris_Hansen_Will_Get_You_by_xXHeatherXD.jpg

    • dmasz91

      then why didnt chris appear? haha obviously he knew there was nothing wrong or for all we know they cuda been friends..who knows?

    • FarltonFole

      “then why didnt chris appear? haha obviously he knew there was nothing wrong” Good God you are a retard. The age of consent is 18 in Cali, you moron. He publically dated multiple 16 year olds; once when he was 28 and again when he was 33. He is the definition of a child predator.

    • Justthefact1

      He can legally date them. He cannot have sex with a 16 yr old or that would break California law.

    • grizpapa

      Just like Brad Pitt right?

      Or are you one of those double standards types?

    • LEXXY

      Thank you very much…..You are the SMARTEST one that i have seen here so far!!!

    • MammaSweetpea

      Thanks, LEXXY, I appreciate that :)

    • dmasz91

      i think we’re arguing becuz the fact that the article was written in the first place implies there was something wrong in their relationship even tho it was 7 yrs ago. it shudnt have been brot up. even if she was 16 now, the point is , it still shudnt matter!

  • dumb

    You say you are old fashioned but what you consider old fashioned and what the history books say is old fashioned do not coincide. I’m pretty sure this was common occurrence back in the day.

    • whiteroses

      True. But we don’t live in the 16th, 17th, 18th or 19th centuries anymore. You know what was also common “back in the day”? Slavery. Women not being able to vote. Kids getting beaten and nobody being able to do anything about it.

      Most people can agree that change is a good thing. And there’s a damn good reason why most teenagers shouldn’t be dating adults.

    • http://mrda.wordpress.com MRDA

      Comparing consensual sex with slavery: signal of an exeptionally sloppy thinker.

    • thebadlydrawnfox

      I think the reason this gives people pause is because they are not sure whether 16 is old enough to truly consent, so in that sense it is not comparing consensual sex with slavery. It certainly is on the boundary between being too young to consent and old enough to do so, and capacity to do so will plainly vary from person to person.

      Also, I rather think this comment was not equating the two, just showing that just because something was a common occurrence does not make it acceptable.

    • Justthefact1

      the law decided already that they can for most states so until it becomes illegal this is a non issue and is one of consent if they were illegal back when they first started going he would have been in jail or taken to court since it was mainstream and most knew

    • thebadlydrawnfox

      I think we are perfectly within our rights to question the law, if we think it is wrong. I am not saying this law *is* wrong, and certainly not that people ought to be punished retroactively if an act is legal when it is done. It was once illegal for women to vote (or blacks, or the working classes…). We changed the law because we felt it was wrong.

      Paul Walker, as far as I can tell, was acting within the law, and given the length of their relationship, it is very possible that there was nothing untoward about it.

      I think that consent is interesting and not at all straightforward. It is not a non-issue because it is also very possible for a teenager to be manipulated and victimised by a much older adult, and it is our duty to minimise this occurrence.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      It really has less to do with manipulation and more with meaningful consent.

    • Cindybreeding

      We are talking about California not some hillbilly state.

    • Scott Behrens

      Ever been to Stockton? or the high desert? Lots of hillbillies there.

    • whiteroses

      Exactly. Thank you for that one.

    • whiteroses

      No, not really. I’m pretty sure I didn’t compare consensual sex with slavery- you are making that connection.
      My point (because apparently I need to spell it out) is that just because our ancestors did something doesn’t mean that it was: a) a good thing, b) that we need to do it in 2013 or c) that it needs to be memorialized as a wonderful moral choice when it wasn’t.

    • Justthefact1

      Well ,all those things you said happened with a BIG difference ..no one wanted to be a slave, No one wanted to be left out of having a voice to vote, Kids did not want to be beaten… BUT age of 16 up is legal in most states and they can actually decide whom they want to date ..wow..still .. and if someone is 18 they can be killed for country should we allow this and bar them from the right to choose their relationships??

    • whiteroses

      Slavery, lack of rights and child abuse were all legal at one point too. Just because something’s legal doesn’t make it right.

      The age of 18 means that, according to the government, you are a legal adult. The only thing you can’t do at 18 that a 21 year old can do is rent a car and drink legally. And if you’re a legal adult, you’re expected to act like one. I think you’re confusing the drinking age with consent for sex. They’re two completely different things. A 16 year old can’t sign up for the military unless they lie about their age, so that’s not even a topic in this discussion.

    • Justthefact1

      No age of consent is different and allot of states it is 16 .. and allot of the world is the same ..18 is legal adult. all those things that used to be legal no one that had that forced on them liked it

      this girl and guy made a lasting relationship and if it was my state it would be fine. apparently it would be a misdemeanor offense in Cali . this whole issue was decided when the state of California did not seek to prosecute him, their silence shows that.

    • whiteroses

      So he wasn’t prosecuted. Sure. Neither are a lot of people in the Mafia. Doesn’t make what they do any less illegal.

    • Justthefact1

      unlike the people in the mafia that committed crimes in secret Paul was in public out in the open and it was well known what was up and they could pick him up if he broke a law BUT they were silent and this means they felt he had not broken the law but now after his death everyone comes out talking nonsense when California silence on the issue that was there long ago spoke loud and clear about what was thought behind the scenes ..he is no criminal no court no trial he was in public for ANYONE to see..simple.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      You know that the only reason why 18 is strictly because of political reasons. It use to be 21 but during WW2 they wanted more recruits for the war so they lowered the draft age to 18. Because of that voting was lowered to 18 years later along with other things such as the age of majority(adulthood) in most states.

    • whiteroses

      True. Most eighteen year olds don’t have the capacity to make mature decisions, but that doesn’t exempt them from the law all the same. And if most 18 year olds aren’t playing with a full deck, why is a 16 year old qualified to make life-changing relationship decisions?

    • Man_Of_Sin

      They can make mature decisions, just not when it comes to a heated violated situation.

      http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2009/10/teen-maturity.aspx

    • whiteroses

      The hole in your logic is that an 18 year old is a legal adult, so therefore they can, in fact, do whatever they damn well please within reason. A 16 year old is not an adult, no matter what arguments you want to use. They’re not an adult psychologically, phisologically, mentally, emotionally or legally.

      You can have a relationship with a 16 year old, in California, provided you’re not a certain number of years older than them. Paul Walker was comfortably outside that legality.

    • Justthefact1

      NO, not true, there are no laws against dating in any state in the USA only against sexual acts while being together.

      http://www.ageofconsent.com/california.htm

      I do not have a hole in my logic as I said, someone who is 16 can decide who they want to date in most states and by date i mean sex in this sentence ..then i go on to say and if someone is 18 they can be killed for country ..this was stated mainly because of other people talking about 18 year old going with older guys as being creepy even wrong.. though it is obviously an irrelevant point with you since you agree with me that an 18yr old can choose whoever.

  • thebadlydrawnfox

    My dad is 17 years older than my mom. I know they met when she was 13 and got married when she was 19. Somewhere in the middle of that, they got together. I haven’t asked exactly what age, because when I was younger I told my mom that I thought it was a bit weird (they were long-since divorced) and she doesn’t like talking about it now.

    I am kinda relieved that it’s not just me who thinks this dynamic is a bit creepy…

    • debbie hodgdon

      my dad was 17 yrs older than my mom and it lasted until one died, so proof it works out …along with many other relationships in the world and in US history where there were more age gaps which can be correlated with more faithfulness

    • JLH1986

      I think most people have anecdotal proof it can work. I’m not ok with 16 being age of consent (though the state doesn’t care about my opinion) and even I know of one couple wherein a teacher and student married only a month after graduation (after 3 years of them dating, everyone knew no one complained) and now 15 years later they are still married and by all accounts are successful etc. However, I also know of probably 10 other relationships with similar age gaps that failed miserably. Also I don’t think age gaps can correlate with fidelity.

  • Justthefact1

    If this writer were old fashioned she would have realized allot of this
    went on long ago and even still is. it more recent years that you get the frownie faces and it
    is mainly women who are losing their youth (no offense stating the obvious) and teaching it to their
    children how wrong it is it was not frowned on before at least not much because Men had mainly the rule and now woman have much more a voice again correct me if i am wrong here but woman have allot more say here in america than they ever did..so..unless you are a cougar (of course thats ok) the men married to these women keep
    their mouths shut because they do not want to hear it for the next
    however long. and really females barely kissing at 16?? thats a joke and
    rather than be unbiased she had the nerve to write that in this article?? call that lie out instead it gets passed over ..the
    point is the Paul is passed and they have proven that they were in love
    for lasting what 7 years ..thats longer than most marriages these days and please do tell where do you get its wrong from? not the law she is of consenting age so its not there ..not religion def not bible either please it looks like emotion to me some woman are of marrying age young they know what they want some are def not but its up to the couple within the law to work that crap out and they did! so hope off your high horse samantha and nice try with finding the most oldest looking pic of him he still looks young lol

    • whiteroses

      You lost me about halfway through the first sentence. Spellcheck and formatting are your friends.

    • Robert

      You need to go back to grade school and learn how to write.

    • Justthefact1

      Oh.. Do I? Thanks so much for that piece of advice, I will just run back to my college and give it another go.

  • Bobby Gray

    “If I were old fashioned”- are you a moron? If you were old fashioned you would totally be down with this. It was you new age hippies that pushed for marriage age laws. Back in the old days it wasn’t uncommon for a 13 yr old girl to be married off.

    • Samantha_Escobar

      Wait, I pushed for “marriage age laws”? Pics or it didn’t happen!!!1!

    • whiteroses

      Historical evidence or it never happened. If by saying “in the old days” you mean the 1500s, people also died around 30 on the regular back then, so there’s that.

      In the colonial period (17th and 18th centuries) people actually got married in their twenties, and it wasn’t that uncommon for people to get married in their 30s. So, there’s that.

  • Victoria

    Character bashing at it’s finest hour i see! Struggling for an article to write maybe?? The man only passed away a day or so ago. How about you find something else to have a whinge about. At the end of the day, as others have said it’s not relevant now. They obviously had a solid relationship and I’m sure she’s distraught with recent events. So have a little heart and stop being disrespectful!

    • FarltonFole

      Yeah, leave the pedophile alone! If people have to see RIP Paul Walker all over the internet, we can freely discuss his pedophile tendencies. He bashed his own character by being a child predator.

  • Elizabeth Alexander

    i don’t think the problem is that you wrote this, it’s that you chose to write it today. giving everyone some time to grieve before launching into this would probably have been the better thing to do. it does seem like a cheap ploy for clicks, regardless of its validity.

    • Cindybreeding

      When is it a good time? when another hillbilly parents think its okay for their 16 yr. old daughter to get hooked up with a 33 year old in California is wrong. We are talking about under age 16 not 18 & thats when its considered consensual sex and legal age to fight in California not 16. They are both from and live in California8

    • dmasz91

      seriously, people base morality too much on state laws….where there’s disunity there’s no one true answer….but i believe there is one true answer, and it depends on the specific young girl in the situation and her character to determine whether its right or wrong, not generalizing everyone under one age number. man made laws are often dumb and should definitely not be taken as people’s own personal views of the world. the whole US history has young girls marrying and back then the US had more morals, less divorce, more children, prosperity,etc. and most likely happiness….those were the times of “american dream”

    • FarltonFole

      You sound like a member of NAMBLA. They think exactly like you do, regarding 33 year olds dating 16 year olds.

  • Alexandra

    No, this is not the time.

    • Cindybreeding

      When is it a good time? when another hillbilly parents think its okay for their 16 yr. old daughter to get hooked up with a 33 year old in California. That is wrong. We are talking about under age 16 not 18 & thats when its considered consensual sex and legal age to fight in California not 16. They are both from and live in California period (.) . They are not from hillbilly state…get it?

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Over 40 states are fulled with hillbilly? That’s insulting and there is no law on dating.

  • zadine lopez

    How easy it is to judge people! How many teenagers are out there with better brains and maturity than some adults will ever have in a lifetime?! True, Paul’s girlfriend was 15 or 16 when they met, but they were together on and off for a few years, so she and her family had plenty of time to figure out if he was an honest man. they are the only ones who can judge and decide.Unfortunately he’s gone, and if any of you has ever lost a loved one, I’m you will know what the girl is going through.

    • FarltonFole

      Paul Walker is no different than the guys you see on Dateline NBC; the man is a child predator and probably a rapist.

    • zadine lopez

      free speech is an amazing thing

    • FarltonFole

      A person 33 years of age dating a 16 year old sounds like predation to me. You’re probably a pedophile yourself.

    • FarltonFole

      Also, if people want to post RIP Paul Walker everywhere online, we have the freedom to talk about how much of a pedophile he was. Not everyone is okay with the idea of 33 year old men taking advantage of 16 year olds, as you obviously are.

    • CMc

      Just because they were in a relationship doesn’t mean they had sex prior to her being 18. Way to accuse of him of things without him being here to defend himself.

    • FarltonFole

      A person 33 years of age dating a 16 year old sounds like predation to me. You are probably a pedophile yourself.

    • CMc

      My comment was about him being a rapist which I think is unfair to call him because we don’t know when they had sex. I never said he wasn’t a predator or creepy or weird or any other number of things you want to call him. And sorry to burst your bubble, but kids/teens aren’t my thing. But way to add to the discussion.

    • FarltonFole

      Yeah, they never had sex, they just dated for fun and games because they had so much in common. I heard he liked her school dances, but yeah, no sex for him.

    • CMc

      You can be sarcastic all you want. It doesn’t change the fact that you weren’t there and still have no idea when they started having sex. Plenty of couples wait to have sex, some until marriage. Just because you can’t fathom it doesn’t make it impossible.

    • FarltonFole

      Great way to deflect the topic. You sound like a typical member of NAMBLA. Please do not have children, they deserve better than someone who thinks it’s fine for 33 year olds to date 16 year olds. Whether they had sex or not is irrelevant to the fact that he is a grown ass man dating an underage person. It is exactly what they advocate in NAMBLA. Also, you can’t prove they didn’t have sex–what a great argument to make. You sound like a pedophile if I ever heard one.

    • CMc

      Whether they had sex is completely relevant if you’re going to call the man a rapist which you did. The definition of rape involves sex. And please stop putting words in my mouth and making ridiculous assumptions. I never said it was fine for them to date ever. In fact if you read any of my other comments on this topic I’ve said it was creepy many times. That doesn’t automatically make him a rapist. I’m sorry you find it so offensive that I refuse to call him that without proof but that’s the way it is. Innocent until proven guilty. Don’t bother responding unless you have something to say other than I’m pedophile blah blah blah. Your vitriol is tiresome.

    • FarltonFole

      You lack intelligence. I wrote “probably a rapist.” meaning that he is probably a rapist. Learn to read please. To say that men that date teenagers less then half their age is only looking for conversation is delusional. If you are going to defend 33 year olds dating 16 year olds, you should join NAMBLA. That is what they advocate. That is fact. You can keep ignoring that I am correct, that is your personal neurosis.

    • CMc

      I’m aware of what you wrote. I disagreed with it. Do you always get this bent out of shape when people disagree with you and call them names and tell them to join silly organizations? Anyway, you’ve very clearly demonstrated that you do think he’s a rapist. You wouldn’t have had such nasty responses to me if you thought there was any chance that he wasn’t. You would have responded to my first comment with, “That’s why I said probably, you moron.” Instead you argued against me and apparently yourself. All I’ve been saying equates to “I can’t call him a rapist without proof, but I will call him creepy.” So if you essentially agree than why am I the pedophile? Wouldn’t you be one too? If you essentially agree than why am I the one that should join NAMBLA? Are you also a member? I mean congratulations on being contradictory. Now surprise me. Write a response that doesn’t contain insults.

    • FarltonFole

      I was stating points of logic, of which you have failed to comprehend. You’ve failed to understand every point I have made thus far because you are caught up in your own illogic. The overarching logic was stated in my first comment that you replied to. What’s so hard to comprehend? The age of consent is 18 where they were. Why are you defending a 33 year old man who dates 16 year olds? THAT’S FUCKING CRAZY. That’s why I said you sound like a child predator yourself, because you don’t seem to have an issue with that. Most normal people would be disgusted, which is why we have laws to protect children from minds like your own.

    • CMc

      I know people who have been raped. I lived and survived it. I know people who have faked being raped. I know people who diminish people who have been raped because they have been desensitized by all the fake accusations. I have seen firsthand how words have power and do damage, especially the wrong words. I personally know how damaging it is for people to throw “rapist” around when it isn’t appropriate to do so. I do not convict people of crimes without proof because when that happens, it can make it THAT MUCH HARDER for actual justice to be done. Again, I’ve seen that happen and I REFUSE to contribute to that. I refuse to make it more difficult for the legal system to work because the internet wants to explode with the view of guilty until proven innocent. A lot of times that HURTS the victims. I don’t want to be a part of that. Until his ex makes a statement saying they had sexual relations prior to her being of legal age, I will not use the term rapist PERIOD. If she admits it, I will be 100% behind her. Until then, I do not use that term. I do not get in the middle. Get one thing absolutely clear, my stand on that does NOT equate to excusing their relationship or viewing rape as acceptable.

      Rape is terrible. Pedophilia is terrible. Paul Walker dating a 16 year old while 33 is terrible. Do you hear me? Are you paying attention? I think it’s all terrible. ESPECIALLY given my personal background with it. Every single response I’ve made has consistently been about my issue with the term “rapist.” You are the one who REFUSES to read what I’m saying. You are the one who has jumped to conclusions and made erroneous assumptions about EVERYTHING I’ve said. You are the one who has read evil intention into my words. You are the one who has attacked my character just because I refuse to use ONE TERM. You very much need to get your mind out of the gutter. Your responses to me have been downright repulsive.

      NOTHING I’ve said means that I think rape is great or that being a pedophile is a-ok or that either of those things are my current pastime. And you should be unbelievably ashamed for even putting forth accusations like that without even knowing me or knowing what I’ve been through in life. Very ashamed. I am disgusted by you and your incessant insults. You don’t have to understand me or agree with me, but you sure as hell don’t get to call me anything that has to do with being rapist.

    • FarltonFole

      By rape, I meant statutory rape. Statutory rape means the sex was simply against the law, because one of the parties involved was an adult, and the other was underage. Some older guys get in younger girls heads, (because they are older and understand more about human psychology) and date them for sex because the women their own age aren’t usually as fit. This is the main reason why age of consent exists, because most 16 year olds can be easily manipulated by a 33 year old. I don’t know you. I simply commented on the fact that since Paul Walker has a record for dating 16 year olds, (allegedly multiple) he is probably a statutory rapist. If you were actually sane, you would agree with me, because I am actually using logic, rather than arbitrary emotion.

    • CMc

      What is your point? Read. I already said if the ex steps forward and sheds light, then I support her. Heck I support her now, she’s having a tough time. And if she says “Yes we had sex when I was 16,” then he is in fact a statutory rapist. Do you understand? Are you just choosing not to read the words that I’m very clearly stating? What part of that is so insane and disagreeable? If there is more proof, other than what the gossip websites say, then provide it. I will gladly read it.

      And please, you did not just “simply comment” on anything. You launched a full out character assassination on me. Stop ignoring the fact that you completely went off the rails. And here you are again, now insulting my sanity. Coincidentally after stating that you do not know me. So uh, either you know me or you don’t. Make up your mind. For your sake, do some research on what it means when people cannot argue without insulting the person they argue against. It will be an illuminating read, but unfortunately, it won’t portray you in a positive light.

    • FarltonFole

      The “insanity” has to do with you disagreeing with my previous logic. Again, read my initial statement for reference.

      You, again, said basically nothing. Have a nice day. Paul Walker the pedophile is dead! lol Rejoice! There is one less child predator in the world looking to get into your child’s head (and backside). Also, he died in the car of his friend breaking the speed limit. Thank god he didn’t hit anybody.

      Also, I promise to read up on “arguing without insults” if you promise to read up on emotional control, and not taking what other people say so seriously. You have serious issues that would make your life a lot easier if you overcame them. (I’m not meaning to insult you, I’m just trying to help.) Have a nice day. :)

    • CMc

      Lol here’s a word of advice, if you don’t want people to take the words you say seriously, then don’t say them. If you do say them, then own them. Take responsibility for the effect your words have. Don’t try and avoid it (or worse blame the other person) because you are surprised that someone doesn’t like what you say. That is an unfortunate character flaw. I hope you are able to overcome that and have a happy life. Happy people don’t tend to insult random people for no reason no matter how many smiley faces they use.

    • MammaSweetpea

      Wow…child predator AND a rapist!! Go on…how much more slander can you throw out there. Geez, way to make assumptions.

    • FarltonFole

      A person 33 years of age dating a 16 year old sounds like predation to me. You are probably a pedophile yourself.

  • S

    Haters gonna hate. This is a very even-handed, thoughtful article, and I’m glad to know this piece of pop culture information. You rock, Samantha.

  • FarltonFole

    Disgusting. It’s astonishing that people could continue to support such a child predator. Who knows how many children he has taken advantage of. If he was on Dateline NBC prior to the accident no one would be as concerned about his passing.

    • Guest

      Everyone makes it ok because he’s a gorgeous actor. How about a 33 year teacher dating a 16 year student… arrested, fired from his teaching position and in jail.

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Chris_Hansen_Will_Get_You_by_xXHeatherXD.jpg

    • yuio

      except paul walker wasn’t in a position of authority over his gf, so it’s completely different from a teacher and a student. I think it’s gross that he dated someone so young, but seriously, you’re describing two completely different situations

    • dmasz91

      there’s a difference between being young and being a child. apparently everyone has their view of “child” misconstrued

    • Man_Of_Sin

      A child is defined as someone who has not reached puberty and 16 is the age of consent in most places or lower.

      http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Child

    • Icen

      You need to stop talking.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Butthurt?

    • dmasz91

      r u kidding me? the dictionary is bs…people have reached puberty since at least 4th grade. idk where ur from

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Exiting childhood dies not make one an adult, per say.

    • dmasz91

      i cud c the definitions maybe being ok for only physical reference, but people have it all misconstrued when it comes to what people should be capable of at what age and everything.

    • dmasz91

      do u give the light of day to those conspiracies about presidents and government officials being involved in child prostitution rings? paul should not be on ur list of predators since he was in a stable relationship for so long and out in the open with commitment

    • FarltonFole

      He is a pedophile. End of story. There is no difference between him and Jerry Sandusky.

    • grizpapa

      They still support Brad Pitt and I bet you do too.

    • FarltonFole

      You lost that bet.

  • Cate

    I do think its weird, but he’s dead now so no point dragging his name through the mud. That said I have been around the entertainment industry my whole adult life and all the famous stars prefer the younger ones, they are the ones that get through as groupies, even over much prettier older girls. I have seen 15,16,17 yr olds being preyed on by 40 yr old men, it’s so disgusting, makes me wonder about men actually. The number one porn search term on Google is ‘young’.

    • Justthefact1

      oh wow doesn’t happen with much with older women and younger men right?

    • dmasz91

      searching for young over “old” girls is self explanatory and i think anyone would “prefer” that in general. it’s only natural. but paul’s gf doesn’t even look like she’d b a groupie. she really looks like an average girl and i think that cud make some women feel jealous of people in her shoes. it makes things complicated that he’s a celebrity, but stuff lke this goes on all the time, just without the media attention and people have happy relationships for yrs.

  • AC

    Here it comes… when there is nothing to talk about Paul Walker, some person that has nothing to do is writing this. In my opinion, there is no age to fall in love, besides talking about virginity, now a days girls start having sex from really young ages such as 12 – 13 and most likely with guys with the same age. It is such a shame talking about this now when he is dead. PEOPLE, IT JUST HAPPENED, AND IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE.

    • zadine lopez

      Best Post!!

    • Robert

      Ah, no, it can’t happen to anyone. I’ve never fallen in love with a teenage boy and I’m not ever going to. We have more control over ourselves than that.

    • Steph

      Quit the ballshit that you can control who you like and don’t like people can’t help who they fall in love with

    • whiteroses

      True. But acting on it? That’s something you are completely in control of.

  • jskittykins

    Ha, in several states the age of consent is 16. Does this mean, that removed from the state of California, he would not longer be “sick” and “wrong” like you people are making him out to be? At what age, in this country, do we give women control over their own sexuality….? In America, (even) an 18 year old girl can do whatever she wants, sex-wise, so long as she doesn’t like older men, because in that case, she has daddy issues or is being manipulated. Another case of feminism being turned on its head and being falsely used to infantize women. It’s not right and it’s not empowering.

    • thebadlydrawnfox

      This has literally nothing to do with feminism. The distinction being discussed is between someone just at the age of consent (or under it, in some States) and someone twice that age. No one has said that they would feel differently about this if it were an older woman and a teenage boy.

    • jskittykins

      It actually has everything to do with it because the whole point of this article is to shame PW for being with an “underage” (I use quotes because this is so hard to define given that states all differ on their definition of this term) girl, as if she wouldn’t be sexually active otherwise, as if he had sex with a child.

      In my state, you can choose to drop out of school at 16, drive at 16, have sex at 16 and so forth. At 18 you can buy cigarettes, join the army, etc etc. Then there’s the drinking age of 21… all of these ages signify that you are an adult and have the capability to decide to do these things.

      Women are encouraged to do anything they want except CHOOSE to be with an older man. If they do, it’s automatically assumed that something is wrong with her mind, or that the guy was being manipulative (implying that the female is too stupid to understand what’s going on).

      My question stands- WHEN are women allowed to decide to really choose who they want to be with without being judged as naive or dumb? It’s ridiculous that people imply that a 16 year old would still have been innocent had this man not come along and corrupted her. Give me a break.

    • dmasz91

      very well said

  • jskittykins

    Also, I find your light use of the term “child bride” very repulsive. This situation in which a post-pubescent consenting female is in a relationship with an older man doesn’t compare to 12 year old child brides in Africa being genitally mutilated and forced into marriage.

  • TJ

    Age of consent is just a number we came up with. Its not the all-mighty, black and white answer to right or wrong. Is it wrong in African tribes to have kids at age 13? Was it wrong for your ancestors to reproduce in their teens? Law is only only law. When you break it when you go over a 1mph on the freeway, is that “wrong”? Too many people with too little common sense. If its not affecting you or hurting anybody its time to spend your life doing more productive things than judging others. Here specifically, there was clearly nothing wrong with the relationship as we would have heard about it by now.

    • whiteroses

      Just because something is done in other countries (I mean, hey, some people in Korea eat dog, so who’s buying Pekinese for dinner tonight?) or people used to do something in the 16th century (funny, I thought electric lights and this Internet thingy meant we’d progressed a bit) doesn’t mean that it should be done here.

      It’s been scientifically proven that teenagers, as a whole, don’t make great decisions. That means that, as a rule, adults- who are generally in positions of power over kids even if they aren’t a direct authority figure- should be able to make better choices than your average 16 year old. Having sex with someone whose brain isn’t completely developed isn’t exactly smart. http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-teen-brain-still-under-construction/index.shtml

    • Man_Of_Sin

      It been proven that they can give meaningful consent by 16 though. But they don’t make good decisions in the heat of the moment which this relationship clearly was not.

      http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2009/10/teen-maturity.aspx

      And no, they are not in a position of power has they have no control over them.

    • Ryngwrayth

      Going to guess you don’t actually have a teenager, male or female? *smh* 16 is a vulnerable time…and in no way are you (general) even near an adult, nor will you make adult decisions. The immortality complex and narcissism that are a well studied researched, and acceptend part of that time of life precludes it. It precludes the ability to even KNOW, what you don’t know. Oscar Wilde was VERY right about that.

      An adult person with adult life experiences, has a very bad case of Peter pan syndrome indeed if they find the company of someone with so much less life experience and ability to engage and even question them from that standpoint…appealing. In that situation, male or female you (general) don’t want a relationship…you want a worshipper, or a blank slate to fill with whatever makes you happy, or you want to relive your own youth every day.

      Neither is admirable…and both are sad.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Oh, you’re just going to ignore the data posted? Okay.

    • dmasz91

      one doesn’t need to have a 16 yr old child to understand how we’d treat her if we did have one. we’ve all been 16 at one point and know how we’d want to be treated. you’ve obviously just never desired to b wit someone before whom others have tried to restrict u from seeing. an older person doesnt need to want a blank slate to be with a younger person. i’ll throw myself out there and say i was 17 with 25 yrs gap and at one point 15 with a 20 yr old and i was highly opinionated and goal oriented by that age. 16 is not a vulnerable age…maybe for YOU! haha if u had a vulnerable 16 yr old time or ur child does, that doesn’t apply to all 16 yr olds

    • Justthefact1

      really? was it that way when more people married younger? maybe your great great grandfather married someone young, if not no matter so all of those people had peterpan syndrome too or worse?

      ..I do not believe for a second your above comment is applicable to everyone calling them a peter pan syndrome or worse.,

      my great grandfather married my great grandmother when she was really young before 18 .he was 37.they stayed married until their deaths ..

      “has a very bad case of Peter pan syndrome indeed if they find the company of someone with so much less life experience and ability to engage”

      yes he could engage with her and this “life experience” is a non issue what is this life experience ..
      pain suffering being dragged through various bad relationships exactly what?

      she held intelligent conversations with him which i am sure she did since she was in college in studies in a field he was into they were into quite a lot of the same things actually so I am more than certain they had allot to talk about

      ..some 16 17 year olds can be quite educated in an area that will allow you to learn from for along time to come .especially if they have all sorts of interesting ideas to bring up things you have not thought about . and can make you say WOW!

    • whiteroses

      Speaking as a teacher, I can tell you that the article you posted doesn’t mean what you think it does. A 16 year old may be able to consent to sex. That doesn’t mean they’re ready to have it, that they should have it, or that they’re in any way capable of processing what it means. And sure, they may not actually have been having sex, but if you believe that I’ve got some nice desert in Iceland I’d be willing to sell you.

      So you’re telling me that a wealthy, famous, attractive man wouldn’t be in a position of power over a teenage girl he was attracted to? I take it you haven’t spent much time around teenagers lately.

      I don’t know Walker’s exact situation, or his girlfriend’s. But you’re arguing that all 16 year olds should be able to have sex with whoever they want. And that’s not true. It may be legally true, but it’s not morally true. It’s the morality of it that people are getting hung up on.

    • dmasz91

      o ok so then even a 16 yr old boy havin sex wit a 15 yr old girl isn’t smart either then since she’s not fully developed? who said the brain shud be fully “developed” by society’s standards to be in a committed relationship or married? that’s not sound criteria…if that’s the case, then autistic, mentally disabled people, or even very old elderly people shouldn’t have sex with or marry someone.

    • Justthefact1

      This report is not scientifically specific on a persons ability to choose a relationship.. gees older people allot of them cannot choose properly a relationship yet some younger people choose wisely this and it lasts ..science in this area is newer and they truly are just scratching the surface of the mind as a matter a fact with science when you think they know all the parts of the body ..they only recently discovered a new layer to the eye!

      to understand the brain and decisions with the brain and what it means can be overturned ..take a simple thing like video games ..ever play those with a sixteen year old ..you would not doubt for one second choices and good decisions are learned and some young people learn this early some will not and again a lot of older people NEVER choose wisely in a relationship always falling into the same crap over and over ..

    • dmasz91

      very well sed

  • lester jones

    Ask her parents why they were OK with it. Would Walker been OK with his daughter dating a guy 17 years older? of course not. Celebs make their own rules. A regular guy would have been in jail for doing that.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      1. You don’t know Paul personally.
      2. There is no law on dating.

    • lester jones

      So its OK for 60 year olds to sleep with 10 year olds? No its against the law. There is a law called statutory rape that he broke.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      10 year olds can not give informed consent.

    • dmasz91

      of course he wud’ve been ok wit it

  • Krotch ScroteGuzzle

    Condolences to Paul’s daughter, Meadow. She was close to her dad. ;(

    http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20090206/300.ad.PWalker.JPilchardGosnell.020609.jpg

  • Popgirl

    Well, we don’t know when they had sex. He probably waited until the age of consent, 17. The guy isn’t dumb enough to expose himself to criminal action. He obviously talked with her parents and they had no problem or if they did agreed to them seeing each other. Do I think it’s weird? Yes. I don’t know know what he would have in common with a 16-year-old. He loves nature and that’s what he has said he likes in a woman. She obviously looks like a more natural girl. But there’s plenty of women like that in their twenties when he was 33.
    Still, the the thing is they lasted seven years. So the relationship was serious. Seeing some of these teenagers screwing boy after boy or college girls getting drunk and sleeping with far too many men and probably feeling empty afterwards, at least Paul and Jasmine had a real relationship. At this point that’s all that is important. And she was going to college, so still growing as a person and creating her own identity.

  • Olivia

    She has been his known girlfriend for 7 years, why does it matter now!

    • Guest

      When they first dated and boinked 7 years ago, she was 16 and he was 33. Creepy… it’s a Catch A Predator moment with Chris Hansen.

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Chris_Hansen_Will_Get_You_by_xXHeatherXD.jpg

    • Man_Of_Sin

      We don’t know if they were having at the time.

    • Justthefact1

      Chris Hanson was not doing catch a predator with 16 yr olds because that is most states age of consent

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.
      Were you Creeped out then?

      Is ten years older okay with you?

      Bet more than half of the women posting here would be all over Brad Pitt the Statutory Rapist if given the chance.

  • Srogers

    She was not a high school student, but was actually attending a university studying marine biology… A shared passion between the two. So I think she was not in any way your typical 16-year old. Seems like a pretty smart girl who graduated early to start college. I’d never condone my 16-year old daughter to date anyone past 2-3 years past her age until she’s 18. It seems like they were in love though… Hope this doesn’t happen with my girl!

    • dmasz91

      i think it’s even more ridiculous to be against 2-3 yrs…r u kidding me?! that’s nothing! why limit urself or anyone else to that age gap? girls tend to mature faster than guys anyway , and wut cud possibly b wrong about say a 15 yr old girl wit a 20 yr old guy? and for those who say they prey on the girls, that can’t be true because how can you prove that young guys their own age also don’t prey on them? u really belittle the mental capacity of a girl to talk like that about them. people who have that sort of opinion allow young guys to take advantage of that and “prey” upon young girls their own age because they know the adults/parents will welcome them into their daughters’ life without even checking so much their background and belief system. f that.

    • dmasz91

      so if there was nothing wrong wit their relationship, why wud u not want it for ur own girl? show some consistency in belief plz. i get outside people make it difficult, but a parent shud really just be neutral til it happens and get to know the older guy for who he is and not put a wall up right away

  • Guest

    Paul definitely has a ‘Type age 16′ He started dating this girl Aubrianna Atwell when she was 16 years old too and Paul was about 28 years old.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/02/article-0-19C8ECBD00000578-989_634x533.jpg

    • Steph

      Have you got nothing better to do than rag on Paul walker for the love of god let him rest in peace

    • Justthefact1

      actually if he was with her till she was 23 and found the one he wanted to be with then apparently it was not about the age or he would have gone through 7 ….16 year olds dumping each one every time they turned 17

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.

      Where was your Outrage?

  • Steph

    To be honest it was no ones business but their own at the end of the day ever thought that weren’t a couple back in 2006 they actually might have just been friends and maybe only got together in 2008 when she was of legal age. To be honest I think both of you are narrow minded It has nothing to do with the both of you to be honest I think you should keep your opinions to yourself the fact that your commenting on their relationship with what she and Paul’s family and daughter must be going through right now is disgusting if no one has anything nice to say about a person they know or don’t know should not say anything at all. RIP Paul Walker your the angels now x

    • Steph

      You people need to stop judging him for fuck sake I don’t think he’s family he’s loved ones especially he’s daughter need people going on about this it’s down right fucking disrespectful he only died a few days ago have some compassion!

    • whiteroses

      This was news when it happened years ago. It’s why I stopped watching his movies. Writing an article about it isn’t anything new.

      I highly doubt his daughter is reading this. I’m sorry he’s dead, but that doesn’t make him a saint. I’m not a saint either- but if you break the law, you deserve to get called out. And even if 16 is the age of consent, it’s still sort of gross.

    • Justthefact1

      Do you have any proof at all he had sex with her when she was 16? NO? Then the issue is dead

    • whiteroses

      Other than various different news sources repeating that they dated when she was sixteen, no, I don’t.

      Even if he never touched her- still creepy and weird. And in California, a misdemeanor/felony!

    • Justthefact1

      no it is not a misdemeanor/felony if he had no sex with her now please do show the proof of sex that happened between them when she was 16

    • Justthefact1

      and if they did have sex it would be misdemeanor for him felony for a teacher just to clarify the “misdemeanor/felony”

    • dmasz91

      wow well if i ever had seen PW and his gf walking down the street and i saw you looking at them like they were wrong for being together, i’d think u were a shallow headed sour person inside who i wud never want to b friends with, and that is way worse than creepy.

  • LG

    I was a little taken aback when I read that. It is creepy.

  • liz

    Ok.. so he dated a younger girl. .. and who are we to judge… does anyone know the true nature of their relationship, do we know that he was having sexual relations with her straight away.
    Maybe being a nice guy he would have waited and taken it slow.
    If he wasn’t famous this would not be a topic of discussion.
    Apart from that, this was a news topic years ago when it happened, why bring up again just because he dies…

    • liz

      Apart ftom all this..he has just died in a horrific accident. .should people not show respect to his loved one’s by discussing this right now..

    • FarltonFole

      If people want to post RIP Paul Walker all over the internet, we are free to discuss how much of a pedophile he is. To justify something so disgusting makes you sound like a member of NAMBLA.

  • Adam Woodhead

    Im so glad someone had the balls to report about this, I wanted to post on Facebook about it but was afraid of how it would go down.
    Tragic that he died but finding this out doesn’t sit right with, I’ve dated younger girls in my 20′s but now (34) the idea makes me feel creepy old manish………especially as she still doesnt look of age at 23.

  • Peni

    This was news a long time ago. I know because ive followed him for eternity.

    At the time it was wierd hearing about it n i was against it but he proved that he wasnt being perverted but that he really did find a kindred spirit.

    Thats old news now. She lost the love of her life. Let him rest in peace.

  • Tiffany

    They started dating 7 years ago and you are just now noticing he was dating her? What does it matter now. If you are in love you are in love… I personally wouldn’t go for someone that much older but I have no problem for anyone who does. I mean he wasn’t a creepy guy and she looked very mature so I don’t find it odd.

  • Man_Of_Sin

    Not disgusted at all as its old news. Plus, most 16 year olds are scientifically proven to be capable of making an informed decision. They are allowed to engaged in potentially dangerous activities such as driving. Also, if a 16 year old had sex with a 8 year they would be charged with child abuse as they understand what sex is and its consequences.

  • William Moran

    Some people meet when one of them is under age !! My sister was waitressing @ 16 and met a 27 year old guy ..they dated, got engaged when she was 17 and married when she was 18 ….it was 1960 !! They are still together, and she would be lost without him…it happens..They both found the love of a life time !!

  • cindirose

    You are definitely an ill person Samantha…..get some psychiatric help ASAP…!

    • dmasz91

      ya i definitely think the samantha that wrote this article shud get psychiatric help

  • Sherran

    You are so right, I loved Walker when I saw him on Takers until I found out how old his girlfriend was and having a daughter myself, I was appalled!!! I am saddened by his death and I met him once and he was very nice but that has nothing to do with the fact that in my eyes he was a pedophile. Honestly I believe the reason her mother did not have a problem with it is because it is a RICH, good looking, did I say RICH celebrity. I just lost my sister so I hate to comment on the deceased but I did because I know people are going to not like this article because he passed but the truth is the truth.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Pedophilia has nothing to do with age but is the sexual attraction of biological children(pre-puberty). A 16 year old wanting to have sex with a 8 year old would be considered pedophilia. The age of consent is 16-17 in most states and it would down right silly to say that the US condones pedophilia along with the rest of the world.

    • Katonine

      Yeah, he’s technically an ephebophile.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Ephebophile means to have a “preference” for post-puberty adolescence.

    • Steph

      I think your sick calling him a pedophile have some respect for the dead or at least he’s family

    • dmasz91

      wow i hate when people use a word that they don’t even understand what it is. aparently u dont know what a pedophile is.

    • grizpapa

      So are/were you running around calling Brad Pitt a Pedophile for dating Juliette Lewis when she was 16?

  • Rentax

    Age discrimination involves treating someone less favorably because of their age.
    Whether they are 16 or 40. I’m sure you know better than everyone else does whether a younger person is mentally perepaired for an emotional relationship with an older person. And I’m sure you know better than the girls own mother did about her safety and about her daughters ability to cope with the relationship they had. But to be honest you are basing your arguements on a number, a measurement of time… NOT a measure of who someone is, how well they deal with the world, or their experiences within that world. You are discriminating against people because “you know better”
    I know 30 year olds who are incapible of having a relationship for longer than 3 months because they aren’t ready for a relationship. And yet this girl managed to have a relationship with Paul Walker for 7 years. 7 years is no small feet. He had to travle for parts of his work, so parts of their relationship were probably long distance, which can be dificult. Dating a famous actor is also not the easiest thing in the world, with large parts of his life being public, etc. But it seems like they were making it work for them.
    Assuming you know what’s best for someone based on their age is stupid, and ignorant. Should we base our opinions on race or sex as well?

    • FarltonFole

      You sound like a member of NAMBLA.

  • HMM

    Some of us were just not aware of his personal life.
    And No, I don’t agree with Underage Dating Adult.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      There is no such thing as “underage” when it comes to dating.

    • dmasz91

      this guy is smart u know y? cuz he’s not a middle aged woman lol

  • pdubbnn

    Doug Hutchinson is gross and so is Courtney. Paul Walker had class and is a goodlooking guy. He was lowkey and had goood intentions dating this girl whether she was underage or not. Love has no age limit.

    • http://Mommyish.com/ Eve Vawter

      and child rapists can be good looking guys too

    • Katonine

      If Doug Hutchison was good-looking, then died, he’d get a pass too. If Paul Walker was ugly and alive, he wouldn’t.

    • dmasz91

      wise people will try to know the difference and not put people under the same category

    • Justthefact1

      As long as your not saying Paul was a child rapist Eve because i would love to know what judge convicted him ..none… and when the chance was there for it YEARS ago did anyone? NO WHY because they would not have gotten a conviction or they would have taking him to trial .. but now when hes dead all the mud slinging comes out ..heartless bunch of people on here (not meaning you if the comment was not directed at him of course)

    • grizpapa

      Just ask Brad Pitt, right?

    • http://Mommyish.com/ Eve Vawter

      was he a child rapist?

    • dmasz91

      the prob is…what if he wasn’t a good looking guy? it shudnt matter either way. but ya he duz look young for his age, but even looks dont matter in morality

  • Circleoffire

    I think Paul Walker and his longtime chick, Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell, look great together! Gimme a break! If you wanted to report on this relationship 7 years ago, more power to you. However, now it just seems vindictive and hurtful! Leave Paul Walker and his family alone and have some respect for the dead!!

    • dmasz91

      what bothers me is say if he just died and people found out he was currently dating a 16 yr old. or say if he died at 33 when she was 16…people would still be frowning on that and that bothers me, even though this is about 7 yrs later.

  • jdriver87

    I wouldn’t say it’s “creepy” but I definitely think it’s strange because obviously Walker had access to literally thousands of women around his age that would have killed to go out with him. A 17 year age gap isn’t that big a deal if the youngest is over 25 but a 33 year old man and a 16 year old girl? They’re going to take on father/daughter tendencies in a situation like that and they’re at two completely different places in life. I had never heard of this until now.

    • dmasz91

      there’s absolutely no problem with 1 generation age gap. 2 people can be just as interconnected through their passions and beliefs. what seems slightly weird to me wud be a 2 generation gap….but speaking of PW , it was only 17 yrs difrence, which is hard 1 generation. most guys dont start a family at 17.

  • shawn

    Can you blame him for preferring a nubile, cheerful girl at the prime of her physical appearance? Who would want to date an old shrew?

  • Michael Bruno

    Way to bring this shit out when the guy hasn’t even been buried yet. Anything for a story, eh? F-off with your arbitrary etiquette based on your arbitrary age of consent laws.

  • Chris Abell

    I wouldnt say “call me old fashioned” considering the whole 16 and not married off to a 35 year old man to have children is relatively new.

  • Rodney Martin

    Typical, Hollywood Sex Offender, where was her parents?? dad should have beat his %$#

    • dmasz91

      he’s not a sex offender…if anything i think we shud be much more outraged about sum little boy like j beiber(who has such young female fans) sleeping with prostitutes than calling PW an offender.

  • Trish

    I really like what Paul Walker did with his career and as a humanitarian. BUT…I was VERY disappointed when I heard he began dating his girlfriend at 16! NOT GONNA HAPPEN IN MY HOUSE! I don’t care who you are. I would bet her parents allowed it to happen just for bragging rights….’my daughter dates the actor, Paul Walker’. Any average Joe probably wouldn’t have been acceptable. The first picture I saw of them together, I thought it was his daughter! Certainly gonna miss his work, but….

    • dmasz91

      so u’d rather have ur daughter get wit a younger guy who most of the time only wants one thing, than to be with someone older who actually is more likely to want to settle down? how can u base morality on age? it’s no better than racism or the like. i especially think morality of dating shudnt b based on whether a girl is still in high school or not…who r we to say it’s wrong based on a socially built institution? relationship takes precedence over school status and age. also to say she looks like his daughter is very shallow. since when do looks matter in morality? if that’s the case, then a skinny dude with a fat opposite-skin-tone girl can be viewed as wrong.

    • grizpapa

      And were you disappointed when Brad Pitt was 26 and dating Juliette Lewis who was 16 at the time?

  • Ritzcraka

    Age and speed limits seem not to apply to these Hollyweird ego maniacs.

  • Just Laura

    The age of consent in many states is 16. Do we know if there were actually any violations?

    • Joan

      We know that the age of consent in 18 in California, which is where the relationship took place with Jasmine. The same holds true for Ashley. 18 is the law in California.

  • Jae villa

    I’m not disgusted, just jealous and threatened knowing I’m gonna need to compete against younger women. Some men want a treasure instead of a toy that others have played with and tossed aside. It’s not like he couldn’t date model after model if he wanted to.

    • dmasz91

      proving exactly what i was saying why a bunch of women on this website probably feel disgusted about PW’s relationship 7 yrs ago. being jealous and threatened. i think in PW’s case, ya he was good looking for his age…but most young girls i don’t believe get with an older man for his looks, trust me on that…it’s becuz there was a good connection mentally between the 2 and in their beliefs, which i don’t think happens too often, plus there are a handful of younger men who prefer older women so it balances out somewhat…but it’s so true that older men usually fall for a younger girl bcuz she’s really smart for her age and/or isn’t used up, and/or doesn’t have baggage like tons of attached exes or children

  • dmasz91

    notice how it’s majority females who think age matters…if i were an older man i’d reserve my right to date an 16 yr old girl if i wanted to….what makes you think an older male just wants s*x any more than a young one does? what matter is if the relationship stands the test of time, it doesn’t matter what age the girl starts dating at and what age her man is at. and i neva sed that i agree wit teachers screwing students, i only sed they shud b able to have a normal relationship if it so happens that way. ur the ones makin asumptions and puting words in my mouth

  • ladydD

    I still don’t understand how he got away with it? But then no one really saw them together at any of his Movie premiers…People would have thought she was his daugher or something. He kept it secret to the few who knew…but then something like this happens when the parents know the guy has a lot of money, and it’s ok for their 16 year old daugher to be dating someone that old…Kobe Bryant’s wife was underage…so when it comes to money…it’s ok?

    • Sam

      He didn’t get away with anything. It’s perfectly legal. I think you ignorant people don’t understand what is legally right or wrong. Further, this isn’t a moral issue. So what is moral for you might not be the same as for someone else. That was probably too deep for you to understand.

    • Justthefact1

      what? it was public knowledge …what secret?

    • dmasz91

      well if i were her i wudnt want all the attention of being on the red carpet, so mayb she felt the same? maybe he just wanted to live his normal life at home without all the attention rather than give people the chance to criticize his relationship, which makes him a better man in my book. besides, they look like a totally normal couple anyway. only a middle aged or jealous woman wud feel she looks like his daughter…jealous because you put those restrictions on urself bcuz other people “told u so”, and u were foolish enuf to believe it, so u put it on other young people to believe the same.

  • Scott Behrens

    Paul Walker was kind, generous, and maybe a little naive. He was a kid that never grew up. Not necessarily a bad thing, considering his success and impact. Perhaps he just felt more comfortable with her.

  • Qin

    This article is ridiculous. How can we judge someone based on their age? We don’t know her level of maturity. Does she not have the right to choose who she wants to sleep with?

    • Sam

      Exactly.

    • dmasz91

      that’s my point, i think this article shudn’t have even been writen

    • FarltonFole

      Well aren’t you just a burgeoning pedophile.

  • Sam

    Shocked and disgusted? Are you kidding me? If those are the emotions that are drawn out re: this issue, you have a pathetic life. Who cares who he dates. You should worry about channeling your emotions for better reasons than this.

  • UncommonSense100

    We don’t know any circumstances of how they met, how their relationship developed, what their dynamic was, how their friends and family viewed it, what their relationship was like… all we know is her age and the length of time they knew each other. He didn’t loiter in the gossip rags and spent apparently a lot of his free time with his charity and his daughter. Are you honestly concern trolling for Jasmine Pilchard Gosnell? Are you really hung up on the social engineering of norms created by thousands of years of condescending and controlling patriarchy? Are you unwilling to recognize that Jasmine Pilchard Gosnell could have been a capable mature woman at the age of 16?

    • Katonine

      16 years olds are teenagers. They aren’t capable mature adults just by definition.

    • dmasz91

      either ur a jealous middle aged woman who is upset about the fact that she’s aging, or u had a really low view of urself when you were 16….or other put u down wen u were 16. either way u have a low view of 16 yr olds which results from some sort of flaw in ur upbringing and what people may have told u ur whole life.

    • Danny Boy

      By the definition of a certain group of people, and even in these “modern times” a very small group oddly. Being not only a history nut, but also a person aware of the wide world and its differences gives a person a radically different perspective. The truly wise person regardless of age, considers an idea or belief from as many angles as possible before reaching a conclusion. The hard thing about this is everybody is different in literally every way. I’ve know 16 year olds of both sexes more mature and capable than some 50 year olds I’ve encountered, holding down good jobs, while obtaining or already obtained a sound education, demonstrating financial maturity and making good, sound life decisions. Just some food for thought.

    • UncommonSense100

      Are you hung up on definitions created by a system that has always under-minded, under-appreciated, under-valued, and underestimated women? The law only says that sexual relations with a minor is illegal. We don’t know how their relationship developed. Maybe they waited. Maybe they had an elongated friendship. What’s different with this situation is we don’t know much. This isn’t Doug Hutchinson and his immature plastic sex doll who uses her plastic body to gain notoriety and dumped him because he couldn’t sexually keep up with her needs. We have no evidence of inappropriate, immature, and damaging behavior on the part of Ms. Gosnell’s and Mr. Walker’s.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      A teenagers is defined as someone in their teen years. That’s it.

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.
      Are you calling him a Pedophile on every articles he’s featured in?

  • kj

    very creepy…16 is 16 no matter how you try to spin it….

    • UncommonSense100

      Was it creepy less than 100 years ago when marriages with 16 year olds were common in the United States? Is it creepy in Asia and Africa now where those ages are adults? We don’t know anything about their relationship.

    • grizpapa

      Tell that to Brad Pitt.

  • Melissa Moore

    I remember reading about this years ago; I scratched my head and gave him the side eye but later forgot about it. I don’t know Paul or his girlfriend, but you never really know about people. Some people grow up fast and are more mature than their chronological age suggests and wise beyond their years — or they’re just “fast” (no pun intended). Maybe this girl was a “grown” 16 or maybe she wasn’t. Just because Paul was chronologically 33 at the time certainly doesn’t mean he was really emotionally mature, despite his looks, wealth, and status; not uncommon. Perhaps mentally and emotionally they were closer in age than their actual dates of birth would suggest. All that said — I *hope* they were good for each other and that there wasn’t a dark dynamic going on behind the scenes, which unfortunately can happen in any relationship, even without an age gap.

  • Alex

    The Daily Mail is a British newspaper and the legal age for heterosexual sex is 16 in Britain.

  • Inky

    Get a life people, get over it and let the man rest in peace!

  • Katonine

    I totally agree with you; it’s gross.

  • Brenda Holt

    people need to keep opinions to themselves and yes he shouldn’t have been wth someone underage but that was his affair no one elses

  • Brenda Holt

    I wonder how old his daughters mom was

  • dmasz91

    i’ll just say this…..if i were PW’s gf i’d be so pissed upon reading this article….imagine ur man of 7 yrs dying suddenly like that and then people find out he dated u wen u were 16 and a lot of people come out with their bs opinions about how wrong that was. that adds devastation on top of devastation. it’s no one’s business. as long as they lived happily together, i dont giv a f*** if they were 14 and 31 at the time….the laws shud b changed to reflect respect for any couple that lasts at least 5 yrs together and reports that they have a happy relationship, without people criticizing it for being wrong that whole time. if people were more supportive of fidelity over caring about age discrimination, we’d have a better country

  • Baby girl

    I have always liked Paul Walker and thought he was such a good looking guy with gorgeous eyes. However, I did not know that he was at one time dating a 16 year old when he was 33….I’m first off really surprised that the media did not run with this story. What is too young in a person’s eyes, that would date a 16 year old…what if she would have been 14 when he clicked with her…would he have walked away or pursued her?…I mean, where does a person draw a line if he chooses an under aged girl? When I was 17, I got involved with a 33 year old man and it turned out terrible. When I was young, I did not see the wrong in this. However, as I got older I realized how wrong an older man dating a young girl truly is. A girl at 16 has raging hormones and changes her mind every other day. As a person grows, we see more what life is about, what we want, and what is right and what is wrong. He must have really matured later in life to believe that dating a 16 year old was ok in any form…as guys do mentally mature later than girls. My son is 18 and I could not imagine dating someone around his age….it’s just not right in my opinion. As for Paul and all that he has done in helping others….this is very commendable. I have made mistakes as we all have, and I just don’t believe that making a few mistakes make us a bad person….although some are harder to understand and accept. My heart breaks for Paul’s family and friends. He will be missed by so many.

  • lena

    I am disgusted. Thoroughly disgusted.

    • Qin

      Thankfully, the law protects minorities from people like you.

    • grizpapa

      Were you disgusted at Brad Pitt?

  • Danny Boy

    I’m not defending any kind of child perversions or this specific case, just giving facts and playing devil’s advocate. Australia, India, and the U.S. are the among the few countries(a few minor African, Central American, and Asiatic countries too-no offense intended to said nations) in the world that have a consent age at 18, and even then it varies in the U.S.(from 16-18 and even 13 if married with parental consent) and Australia(16-18 depending on the sex act it seems). Most countries vary from 15 to 17 it seems with some younger and others unspecified. Among those countries with lower age laws, teen birth rates are directly tied to economic level and education, with the rates climbing when these are lacking. A little researching also reveals that pregnancies with mother’s aged 16-18 have negligible health impacts in comparison with their older counterparts. The negative impacts associated with it are mostly socioeconomic(social status,monetary and upbringing) with most health impacts coming in underdeveloped nations due to lack of medical care and diets low in nutritional value(in developed countries these are issues mostly limited to the impoverished). All this was discovered with about a half an hour of research, and i hope it kinda helps people sit back and not immediately judge him as pervert or child molester. Most issues are not black and white but grey. All that said, my personal opinion is that it hinges on the case-by-case facts. For instance if a person 18+ dates a person aged 16-18 but engages in no sexual activity to me it’s ok. Now with the same situation involving sexual activity, to me level of activity, maturity(both parties), relationship status(coerced,mutual,married,committed,fling etc) and maybe extreme age gaps come into play. I’ve discovered as i get older more and more viewpoints and beliefs that contradict don’t have a right or wrong, they just contradict due to upbringing and personal feelings. With that I’ve also learned to sit back and really think, maybe do a little research and then make a non-specific generalized judgement while remaining open to most ideas on a case-by-case basis(sounds stupid but it makes for less misunderstandings and strife). I hope that maybe i have given a little light on a tough subject, thank you for everyone who reads my rambling missive.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Australia has it 16-17 and it is 16 in of the US.

      http://www.age-of-consent.info

    • Danny Boy

      In Australia its 16 for “normal sex acts” and 18 for any other. Also as i brought up in my little rant in the U.S. it all depends, i come from a state with an consent age of 16 but others are higher or the same.

  • Bleh

    Um okay, couldn’t you have waited at least a couple of months instead of just FOUR DAYS after he died to talk about this?

  • violet rose

    Most men who date young girl would strike me as immature .. For the most part men like young girl to feel more control and they feel more vitality and gain more power in the views of competition of trophy girls and also they love vunerable little girls.. they dont feel threaten by them .. which at times i find them idiotic and just plain childish ,, but for the most part grown men are childish arent they.. hmmm

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Where is your evidence of this?

  • Samson

    In most cutlures before the present day, (and in many still) older men and younger women romances were/are common. Youth, health, beauty and innocence were always prized by men looking for wives, and strength, leadership, realiability, resources, and attentiveness (all tend to increase with as a man reaches his prime) were prized by women looking for husbands. The fact that the star was very handsome didn’t hurt either. He obviously was sincere in his affection for the girl, since he stayed with her for seven years. As a grandparent, I would be glad to see my grand-daughter in such a relationship that would lead to marriage…..better than her moving from guy to guy with all the heart-ache, depression, despair, and anger (for her and the guys) that it can lead to. As far as the LAW goes, the law only says you can’t have sexual relations with someone underage, not that you can’t DATE them….we have no idea what their relationship was like at that time….in traditional times, girls were given a party on their sixteenth birthday, because it was around the time they came of age, and at that point were allowed to be courted by men, including older men. Now with kids reaching puberty at such a younger age, things are quite different. All of this is natural…..there is a reason why female models designed to appeal to men (think Playboy) tend to be 19-23, and male movie stars tend to be 28-50.

  • Stop judging

    It’s not the norm today but not new! Look back in history people, it was normal for 15-16 year old girls to get married to older men. Look at older movies and research it. like Sabrina. Nobody called that movie bad. Some girls mature and grow up faster than others. Some girls don’t go to public school or start college early, like I did. I started college at 15 years old and was in the same classroom with 18+ year olds! I married an amazing man who happens to be 16 years older. I was not on the same level as guys my age…I was not attracted to immature partying guys. so don’t judge so easily. You don’t know their circumstances.

  • Kevin D.

    Honestly, this is disgusting. I don’t really care to mourn his death in the first place, but knowing this just makes me think it was all karma. What a sick fuck.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      16 is the age of consent in most states and countries. These relationships were common back in the day as well. I guess humanity is sick. Oh and what about the other guy that died? Was that karma.

  • checi

    in 1959, Elvis was 24 and Priscilla was 14 when they met.

  • harrykuheim

    So two guys getting Married is fine and Dandy but a 16 year old Girl and 33 year old Man is just too much?

    • B Staff

      Yes. Those two situations aren’t even comparable. Two men (or two women) getting married isn’t a big deal, and a 33 year old man dating a 16 year old is too much…if this story is accurate, that is.

  • Andrew Martin

    To be honest, I never liked the guy because of that whole thing. I believe she wasn’t the first child he dated either.

  • Swoll Guns

    My condolences to his daughter and the entire family, may he rest in peace. They say he was very protective of his private life and I’m wondering if that’s part of the reason or all of the reason, either way, I think that would be considered “jailbait”. Are they certain, because it did say” reportedly”, maybe they ( man, I hope this how it went down at the most) didn’t have sex until she was out of the jailbait stage. That’s how I HOPE it went down. Nope, it would not have been good if she was underage. This may take a little gloss off his fame.2termsmaxwakeup , votetheincumbentsout!!!

    • Man_Of_Sin

      This has been known since 2009.

  • Sinco

    Jim Jeffries explained all this in his standup long ago. It’s okay to be a paedophile if you are the best entertainer in your field like Elvis and Chaplin were (who both fkd 14yo).
    I think we can agree that Paul Walker didn’t reach that height.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      This has nothing to do with paedophile.

    • grizpapa

      Apparently Brad Pitt has though.

  • WHocares

    Don’t say it’s “obviously illegal” when a 33 yr old having sex with a 16 year old in most states is perfectly legal. Who cares they were together for longer than most marriages. So they were doing something right. The problem is 33 yr olds who go after 16 yr olds just to sleep with them then leave them. There’s nothing wrong with a legitimate relationship built on more than sex. And that’s the issue most 33 yr olds have nothing in commmon with 16 yr olds.

    • Axel

      It is not legal to have sex with a 16 year old in “most” states. you must be a pedophile yourself

    • Man_Of_Sin
    • Justthefact1

      WHAT? did you even bother to look at the state laws? do you even have a clue what a pedophile is?

  • Karen

    I think it was creepy- so when he was 35 he could have attended his girlfriend’s high school graduation. If he was not a celebrity, more people would be outraged by this. Don’t get me wrong- it seems as if he did a lot of great work for charities, but it does taint everything about him, to me. I thought the pictures of the two of them together were of him and his daughter. I wish I did not know this fact about him. His death and his friend’s death are both still tragic though. I feel bad for his daughter and his family, and Roger Roda’s family.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      He was a mormon, which explains a lot.

  • JAE

    Sorry it took so long to post a comment about this article. Is it for real? I hope that you are not a reporter because if you are, you just cracked the case! Seven years in the making and you finally found out! Why don’t you just go to the morgue, steal the body and throw it under a bus while you are at it. Whether the relationship was appropriate or not, there’s a time and place for everything….you need to get a clue!!! This is what’s DISGUSTING…you looking for anything to write. You are a simple person! Sleep well!

  • Elem187

    There was nothing illegal about Walkers relationship as long as sex wasn’t involved?… Might have been sick, but illegal it was not. We currently don’t have laws on the books keeping an adult from dating a teenager. It’s when anything of a sexual nature is introduced, the it becomes illegal.

  • Sabrina

    Ok, while I think this is a really crude and gross time to discuss this, I understand the need for the larger conversation. They’ve been dating since 2006. That is a really long time, longer than any relationship I’ve had thus far. He obviously loved her and she him. Some 16 year olds are really mature for their age. I think that because of the longevity of their relationship, it shows just how deep their connection must have been and I don’t think Walker was a predator or anything like that, because he didn’t just sleep with her and leave. This is much different than a teacher/student scenario, because a teacher has power over you. They can manipulate you for grades, attention, what have you. You have to look at what these two “got” out of the relationship. I never even knew until right now that Walker even had a girlfriend, so obviously he wasn’t showing her off like the Hutchinson/Stodden relationship. They must have really loved each other (my best guess!). It happens.

    Let me again reiterate that this was a really gross time to address this. You could have had this discussion with any number of examples besides someone who just died a horrible, accidental, early death. But there are 380 comments on this, so I guess, good job?

  • DJ

    I thought it morally and legally wrong but for whatever reason it wasn’t reported. If he was a “bad” guy it would really bother me but he was such a sweet soul…so no harm no foul. RIP Paul Walker xoxoxo

  • Never

    At 16, what are you uderage for in this respect?

  • a

    16 is legal age of consent in a lot states but yeah he was WAY older..when he was 18 she was 1 think about that

    • grizpapa

      Is it okay if he was 11 when she was 1?

  • Joyce Nesselhauf

    You are not privy to the circumstances, so it’s really none of your business, is it? I’ll answer that for you – no, it isn’t. She is not your daughter. The people involved – her parents, Paul and Jasmine – are the only people that need to be concerned about the circumstances of their relationship. Don’t you have other more important things to concentrate on? Funny how this stuff comes up after someone dies. People start picking their life apart, trying to dig up dirt and negativity. It’s like people just cannot stand to hear good, positive things about someone without throwing shade. It’s possible they just hung out and got to know each other on a friendship level first. Maybe she was an old soul for her age. Maybe he liked the fact that she wasn’t part of the Hollywood scene. Since you aren’t her mother and since you weren’t a participant in it, you should just keep your comments to yourself. Where was your opinion when he was alive? They’ve known each other for 7 years for God’s sake! Surely you could have found time somewhere in there to throw your 2 cents in.

  • Stacey Ann

    Leave it alone! There is no need for this story at all.This story would not of come up if it wasn’t for what happen. Just leave it alone. Find another topic to discuss. Im sure the parents gave there permission after seeing his moral intention and that is there business and non of ours. God Bless you all and The Walker Family,Friends and Fans.

    • FarltonFole

      You sound like a member of NAMBLA. If people want to post RIP Paul Walker all over the internet, we are free to discuss how much of a pedophile he is.

  • NotAPedophilePaulWalkerFan

    Yes, I’m SHOCKED (and DISGUSTED) that Paul Walker’s girlfriend was ONLY 16 and UNDERAGED when he met her at 33 years old. I don’t care what his status was – - Pedophiles…Just Sickening! Where was her parents? Obviously all caught up in the money/fame that was Paul Walker. SMDH!

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.

      Where was your Outrage then?

      Bet more than half of the women posting here would be all over Brad Pitt the
      Statutory Rapist if given the chance.

  • J P

    Why don’t you just admit that what pisses you off about this pairing is that out of all the women Paul Walker could have chosen to be with, he chose a girl in her prime rather than some 35 year old lawyer twunt with 50 cats and 2 kids from previous marriages. Face it, the perfect man doesn’t exist, and if he did exist, what possible reason would he have for choosing you or someone like you? Go back to getting pump and dumped by tattooed bikers with warrants in 7 states.

  • Morisco

    Stu**d stuck up american…age of consent is debatable and it varies between countries ..it is NOT for you to set the rules not judge people…call him a sex offender while you are at it…stu**d id**t…

  • bit_torrent

    Let me remind this writer, that our parents,and generations before them were prone to marrying young and within the family because of the inconvenience of travel; and the convenience of having a homemaker. I am 68 and with a woman who is 53. I knew her when she was 15. We have only been together for eight years, but for this writers taboo B.S. should have been together for 40 years.

    I married her older sister and waited for her to age. Happy…happy…happy!

  • Tawny

    I think in general, the consent laws are fine the way they are. HOWEVER I think we have to take an objective look at how widely people vary when they are 16. It’s hard to say it is inappropriate because we simply do not know the girl. I had already graduate high school, was in college and living (almost all the way) on my own when I was 16. But I also know people that had led amore sheltered life at that age. Each of these decisions is fine. To each their own.
    DISCLAMER: I am 27. Dating a 16 year old sounds SUPER boring and like a lot of work:(
    I’m not saying I get it but I can see how they could love and care for each other just like any other couple.

  • cmf1267

    I was disturbed when I heard that too. I don’t have kids – but if I were a parent I wouldn’t let my 16 year old date a 33 year old. I heard that she is the daughter of a friend and that’s how they met.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Why are you disturbed exactly.

    • grizpapa

      Would you let your 16 year old date a 26 year old?
      What if that 26 year old was Brad Pit, would it be okay then?

    • cmf1267

      No. I wouldn’t let my 16 year old high school child date a grown man. A 16 year old boy or girl do not have the emotional maturity to be in a relationship with a grown man or woman & I wonder why a grown man or woman would want to be in a relationship with a high school child. To me it seems like possibly a control factor. But who knows. JMO.

    • Nik

      I had an English teacher who did that. She is now serving time in an Arizona prison, because it’s a crime.

    • Nik

      Thank you! Finally! A parent that loves their child enough to not allow that. Keep up the good parenting. And congratulations on your morals and standing up for them. People act like that’s a crime nowadays.

  • sunshine

    I too find it creepy, not just his interest in a girl….yes girl….that close to his daughters age, but also her parents condoning the relationship, seriously I hope he didn’t leave the girlfriend anything and it all goes to his daughter where it rightfully belongs.

  • Delores

    Please, let’s start trying to find fault with Paul Walker. Seriously, he was a genuine good guy. Just because he had a relationship with someone who was 16 when they started seeing each other. Give me a break!! Really!! He was apparently still seeing her. Let her greive and don’t point fingers!!!!

  • Tyler G

    People who sit around and dwell on someone else’s relationship………………..
    may want to reassess whats going on in their own lives and relationships instead
    of worrying about others. But I’m sure all you people talking badly about him
    have your life together :)
    #RIPPAULWALKER #condolences to the #family and #jasminepilchardgosnell

  • Bobby Gray

    In 1926 my great grandmother 14 married my great grandfather 33 in Texas and it was totally legal. When you reach puberty you are by definition sexual mature. That was the standard for 10,000 years of recorded human history until about 75 years ago.

  • cezzwho

    Yeah & he already had a daughter by another woman out of wedlock, so he didn’t learn anything. Not a problem in Roman Polansky land, but the rest of us, especially since he professed to being a Christian, not cool.

  • AnotherShocker

    Yeah, it creeped me and my sister out. She’s really having a hard time with it because she was such a fan of his and called him her “Hollywood Husband”. Now she’s totally grossed out and has lost all sorts of respect for him. I have always found any relationship that has ten years or more of an age difference to be upsetting. I mean really – what do you have in common? You are from two different generations. You have two different world views. I always found it to be disgusting. I used to feel nauseous when older me would hit on me. Yuck!

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Marvin Gaye dated a 16 year old and later on married her when he was in his 30s.

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.
      Are you disgusted at him?

      Bet you would be all over Brad Pitt the Statutory Rapist if given the chance.

  • John Richardson

    The real point is, it’s none of your business, so why not get an actual life and contribute something to the human race instead of being a shallow minded bimbo?

  • enelrad

    I have read articles where Paul Walker apparently referred to himself as a jerk when he was younger. Not that it excuses anything because personally, I too think it’s wrong. I mean, what must her mother have been thinking? Did she know? Did she think, oh, but it’s a Hollywood actor so it’s OK? If the girlfriend lied about it or never came clean that’s one thing but hard to believe the parents couldn’t have known about it.

    Course, the psychologists would have a heyday with this; not sure of Walker’s childhood but dating someone that young clearly indicates he has commitment issues; but he has pretty much admitted to that. He knew there would be no “chance” of marriage at her young age so he was safe dating her. Usually commitment phobes will get into relationships that really have no chance of going anywhere simply because they are safe from commitment.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      You marry at 16 with parent’s consent.

    • Justthefact1

      ok ,then why did he stay with her for 7 years? oh must have been his commitment phobia kicking in ..oh wait ..what?

  • getalife

    really, you have nothing better to do than bash people after death.

  • Dave

    Morons, 16 is legal depending on the state. Lets judge the world cause something is right according to individual standards. I wouldnt do it, but if they stayed together for 7 years, looks like it worked. If she was 15 and under, diff story

  • Tina

    I think it is creepy and in my state it is illegal for a 32 year old to date a 16 year old. Period. But it was Paul Walker’s life and he is gone now and even though he would’ve had some questions to answer had it ever gotten out beforehand, he can’t answer them now. People can debate the age of consent all they want but the truth is that what he did was wrong in alot of peoples eyes. I know if I dated a 16 year old, my 16 year old and 18 year old sons might have something to say about that and I am 39…well if I did it when I was 32. Look I know I am rambling and not making much sense and for that I am sorry.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      There is not law on dating but sexual relationships.

  • Jim

    I find it humorous that we are having a discussion about this when he’s dead. so really none of it matters.

  • Nik

    I just read that his ex was 16 when they started dating and he was 28. Then 5 yrs later, he dates his current 16 yr old girlfriend when he was 33. We have laws for a reason and nobody is exempt from them. No excuses.

  • roy shields

    There are times when real love knows no barriers. I know!

  • Nik

    Really? Would you say love knows no bounds if a 29 yr old is with a 12 yr old? That’s the same age difference between them. Like I said…laws exist for a reason. Pedophilia isn’t okay even if they call it “love.”

    • Man_Of_Sin

      16 year olds have reached intelligent maturity so your comparison is awful. Btw, there no law on dating.

    • Nik

      Do you think you’ll enjoy prison, “man of sin?” Just curious….My comparison is “awful” because it’s pure logic and it IS awful. It would be a good idea to reassess your morals.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      The age of consent is 16 in my state. Haha

  • Mike

    No more or less disgusting than it was six years ago when they started dating. I find it peculiar this story is being brought up after Paul Walkers tragic death.
    Regardless what anyone thinks about the situation, sensationalizing the story that is outdated by six years is disgusting at best. Let the man and the memory his fans have of him rest in peace.

    • Joan

      It is being discussed here now because it has been hidden from people, along with the other relationship that we know about with Ashley from the public. There is a reason he lived a private life and now we know why.

  • Rebec Schaughe

    What does a 30-something man have in common with a high school sophmore? Nothing. What does a 30-something man get out of a relationship with a much younger woman? Simple… she cannot challenge his life experience or judgement. She can only learn from him, not teach him anything. She is enthralled by the attention, and may become addicted to the lifestyle he provides, but she’s not helping him grow as a person, because she isn’t a fully formed woman herself. I’m not saying he was a pedophile – but at a minimum you have to agree that it was an imbalanced, unequal relationship.

    • grizpapa

      What about a 26 year old man?

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Nothing in common? Like hobbies? My uncle in his 40s is a gamer like my many high schoolers. We are not fully grown until around 25 so 33 year old should back off until 25 year olds?

    • FarltonFole

      You sound like a perfect candidate for NAMBLA.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Why?

    • FarltonFole

      Because you justify the idea of a 33 year old dating a 16 year old with gaming. That’s fine; everyone in NAMBLA feels the same way. I’m sure plenty of gaymers are part of NAMBLA. Maybe even you and your uncle.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      NAMBLA is into under 13 year olds.

    • FarltonFole

      They are also into 16 year olds as well, you moron. You sound like your typical child predator. Oh, and the age of consent in California is 18, so legally he’s a child predator. Sorry to burst your bubble. Ha!

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Nope. NAMLA is a pedophilia group.

    • FarltonFole

      First of all, it’s spelled “NAMBLA.” And yes, they are a pedo group, but they are also a ephebophilia group. They advocate the same kind of thing you do.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Nope, it only says pedophilia.

    • FarltonFole

      You are a retard who cannot read. Because you have a damaged nervous system, I’ll assist you: http://www.nambla.org/boys.html

    • Man_Of_Sin

      I’m going by what Wikipedia was saying, retard.

    • FarltonFole

      Of course you’re going by wikipedia, you’re a retard. I have a question: Do you want serious problems?

      (Do not say yes unless you really do.) I have a conscience, so I can’t just give you problems unless you want them.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      You mad? Ephebophilia group is rather unnecessary since the age of age of consent is 15-16 most of the time.

    • FarltonFole

      That doesn’t change the fact that I am right and you are still a misinformed moron. Seeing as though you lack critical thinking skills, I will ask again: Do you want serious problems? (Yes or No) Choose wisely…

    • Man_Of_Sin

      You’re not right because you ever posted a valid source. All you showed was that some young people supported them.

    • VisualInsanity

      Nope, your wrong. NAMBLA is indeed a pedophile group only.

  • Rachel Shoemaker

    So what. She was likely a mature 16 year old. When I was 16 I preferred older guys too simply because they acted more mature. 16 year old boys can be quite childish…….some girls don’t like that.

  • dannymaxjet

    He is a movie star; the gf’s family gave PW a pass. If he was broke and average, the police would have arrested him.

  • dannymaxjet

    Oops, he WAS a movie star.

  • wrong daddy

    That is creepy. Only thing a 33yr old man and 16yr teen have in common is MONEY.

    • Justthefact1

      are serious there are tons of common interests especially now a days all sorts of games and sciences like they were into and she was in his college studying the same shit ..and if her grades was as good as his then they knew about as much on a subject they loved ..so idk wtf it is with you people and thinking what could they have in common like somehow a 16 yr old needs to be spoon fed and tucked in at night..

  • alleykat

    I’m not a big fan of Paul Walker, but it’s in bad taste however you choose to write about it and then justify talking ill of the dead. With all of his fame, I’ve never heard about his private (emphasis on private) life, nor have I heard of his girlfriend and their daughter until recently. I would think that if it was a big issue or pervy like Stodden’s encounter, then their dirty laundry would have been hung out by a bigger and more reputable tabloid type show like TMZ or E!. So, with that being said maybe this is the wrong platform for Ms. Escobar to attempt to cut her teeth on real journalism or at the least a sorry attempt at low end tabloid reporting. Ms. Escobar should truly be ashamed of herself at this meager attempt to make a name for herself and most of all, she should re-evaluate the bearing of her moral compass, because this story and it’s contents are written in distaste and the gloss should also share in the shame of this lame article. Maybe if it was written while he was alive and able to defend (if they even care to) their choices, it’s still none of our business.

  • Sandra Young

    Lets not forget that HER parents allowed it. The Cyrus family did it as well with Miley, Hef contributed to those nasty Shannon twins. I mean seriously just because you are a celebrity or rich does not justify breaking the law. She is a ho and not very attractive at that. I am super disgusted with her. No shame!

    • Man_Of_Sin

      There is no law on who you should date.

  • Sandra Young

    Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell is a personal ho and bad influence on adolescents. Its NOT ok to date men that age no matter how star struck one might be.

  • Sandra Young

    Ho!

  • Penelope L. Penderhausen

    Right or wrong, their relationship had lasted longer than a lot of marriages. Obviously, they were both mature enough and committed to each other to make it last. I am not saying it is the norm, or should be, but it seemed to work for them.

    • Joan

      But it did not work. They were NOT exclusively together for 7 years. They have known each other and have been dating on and off for 7 years, starting when she was 16 years old.. PW was with other women during that 7 year time period and that is well documented. Let’s get the information straight here.

  • Professor Ed 1%er

    Okay: You’re old fashioned. 16 is better than 15 I guess…

  • SenorPlaid

    I’m reminded of something Garry Shandling said years ago on the Dennis Miller Show on HBO. Dennis said something about Garry feeling good that even though Jerry Seinfeld won the Emmy (over Shandling), he was dealt some bad press because he was dating a 17-year-old. Shandling’s response: “So … Jerry Seinfeld wins the Emmy, and he’s dating a 17-year-old … And the bad thing is … ?”

  • johnathan blaze

    LOL @ your bitter screed. The sad truth is that younger women are more likely to produce healthier babies. Don’t blame Paul Walker for putting the health of his future offspring as his top priority.

    • Nik

      All of you people are actually defending pedophiles. You’re justifying pedophilia. Think about that for a minute before you continue. Because that’s the contribution you’re making to society.

    • johnathan blaze

      You don’t even know what pedophilia is. A 16 year old is not a child. If you see her as one, then maybe you’re the one who is sick in the head.

    • Nik

      My English teacher went to prison for sleeping with 16 yr olds. Know why? Because they are not adults. They’re still considered children. And calling someone “sick in the head” is actually abuse and harassment. That is against the law, too. And people who do that are insecure. This is why he have laws; They protect people from harm and from being victimized.

    • johnathan blaze

      It’s legal in some states and many other countries. 18 is just some arbitrary number.

    • Joan

      Exactly Jonathan. It is completely illegal and there is a reason for this.

      And we are forgetting there was more than one 16 year old girl here. We are talking about two people who entered into self- romantic relationships (dating) with PW when they were 16. Come on folks – are we really OK with that?

    • Elizabeth Chubbuck

      Wow you really think it was all about HAVING BABIES?? LOLOLOL

  • Christina Hipps

    Im sure her mother gave both permission to date…i really think that that was his private life and nobodies business…and in my opinion for you to cause this kind of drama when the man died just a week ago makes you just as bad as the losers posting pictures of his chard body…he does have a daughter , a mother, father ,brothers and a ex…not to mention his gf…maybe just maybe they might go online to see pics of him and run into trash like that and this…in my oinion you are a piss poor writer who had nothing better to write then to trash a talented young actor who has lost his life way to young…you suck get a life…

  • Christina Hipps

    and did u ever think that maybe it was the reason for on and off …….duh…what a horrible writer…in my opinon

  • johnathan blaze

    Youth and beauty will always attract the most desirable men. These guys don’t care about your overpriced, useless masters degrees. They don’t want a wife for intellectual stimulation. They can get that elsewhere. They just want a woman who will remain sexually attractive for as long as possible while being a nurturing mom.

  • Barry Freed

    i dont see a problem with it. its was his personal business. and if the author is “old fashioned” then that age difference wouldnt be a big deal since people have been doing this since the beginning of time. age is a number. its not like she was a forced child bride.

    • Joan

      What is shocking is how many here have no problem with 33 year old men dating 16 year old TEENAGE girls who are still in high school!

    • Barry Freed

      again, it was his business in his personal life. i doubt anyone in his or her family cares what you think. this obviously isnt the first time 2 people have been together with a huge age difference.

    • Mike Mc

      Would it still be his business if she were 12?

    • Barry Freed

      according to law, no

  • Ebby

    As much as I liked the guy, there is something not so right here… Firstly, he made it clear in some of his interviews that he has missed out a lot by being in the show business, and he appeared to catch up with what he was missing out, such as fast cars, young girl etc. This must have been his way of dealing with part of his problem. Secondly, I cannot help it but to draw similarities to Stockholm syndrome(falling in love with your captor) in this case… If you are very young and desired by a gorgeous and successful actor, when do you grow up and face the reality that this may not really is a relationship you want to pursue.. What age, legal or not, do we really know what we want. I remember being in a number of relationships that shocks me now.

  • gameoholic007

    Who gives a big rats turd? This happend years ago, Paul’s dead, so that means lets start digging up his past now? Really, get a life people, i’m not saying it’s cool to do or anything, but this kind of thing happens all the time, you just don’t hear about it. =/

  • Csupply

    The age of consent in California is 18. If she was 16 and he was 33 when they began sleeping together, the law says he’s a rapist. You can think what you want, but this makes him a pedophile under California State Law. That’s pretty black and white. Morally, perhaps you can argue shades of gray, but the law doesn’t see it that way. Personally, I see a problem with a man of 33 choosing to embark on a relationship with someone who isn’t even considered mature enough to vote or make their own decision about buying a pack of cigarettes.

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.

      Are you running around calling him a Rapist?

    • Nik

      No. But I would most definitely define that as pedophilia.

    • Man_Of_Sin
    • Marie

      The age of consent in California is 18. Argue that. I’m waiting.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      There is no law on dating, fool. Only sexual relationships.

    • Marie

      The fool here is the person who thinks they know that they didn’t have a sexual relationship. There is no way you could possibly know that. That’s unintelligent.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      I never said they didn’t but there is no proof.

    • Justthefact1

      So in reverse,there is no way for you to know that they did, do you! Innocent before proven guilty is law so I am told .. so default stance here in the USA is, he is innocent.. so move along you have no point

    • Nik

      I just looked up puberty in the encyclopedia and it said girls usually start it at ages 11 or 12. Now I’m completely disgusted. Even more so than I was to begin with. I can’t believe you support that. Our values are on opposite sides of the spectrum. I’m going to conclude with this; I’m really glad that we have laws that protect children from the kind of logic from people that side with predatory behavior.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Support what?

    • Justthefact1

      I think you needed to look up a few words to pedophile to back up your accusation of Paul being one ..or did you and see your definition was wrong and decided to get on a rant about puberty for who the fuck knows why.

    • Nik

      I just looked up puberty in the encyclopedia and it said girls usually start it at ages 11 or 12. Now I’m completely disgusted. Even more so than I was to begin with. I can’t believe you support that. Our values are on opposite sides of the spectrum. I’m going to conclude with this; I’m really glad that we have laws that protect children from the kind of logic from people that side with predatory behavior.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      No, the state calls it unlawful sex not rape.

    • Justthefact1

      pedophile think you need to recheck your definition

  • anne_gee1227

    I’m a fan of Paul Walker’s. I never really knew about his girlfriend being 16 when he first met her and the other one as well. I was thinking it had a lot to do with his religion or maybe not, who will ever really know. By far no one is perfect. It has me bewildered and it still does, I still cannot get my head around the notion of it all, I’m still in shock over it all. It’s a fact that he was in a relationship with her and has been for while, so it wasn’t a secret. He has been in the public eye for sometime now and no one has made a big deal out of it, why now? He’s gone now and if he was still here, would folks share so many opinions about. It’s just so upsetting to know, he probably could’ve had who he wanted, but instead he picked her, it’s a lil to late to dig it into the ground it’s now over. Society knew it before now and sometimes society makes it okay, when he was alive, no one had anything to say, now he’s passed on everybody’s criticizing him. He still had some
    character to himself, he did show at some points in his life he wasn’t always about himself.So sad and tragic. RIP PW, ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE YOU NOW…….

  • hatetoregister

    AMEN! I said this on another comment board! NO ONE has been talking about this, but that man was REALLY doing the wrong thing! 33 + 16 = statutory rape!

    • grizpapa

      Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
      the time.

      Does 26 + 16 = “statutory rape”?

    • hatetoregister

      It SURE DOES! Being Brad Pitt doesn’t exempt you from the law!
      In fact, let’s change the equation over 18 + 16 = statutory rape! There you have it!

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Cali calls it’s unlawful sex, not rape.

    • Nik

      According to California state law, it does. So yes.

    • Justthefact1

      NO 33+16= fine 33+16+sex = unlawful sex in California ..

  • grizpapa

    Brad Pitt was 26 when he dated Juliette Lewis who was 16 at
    the time.

    Where was all the Outrage then?
    Is 26 okay but 33 not?

    Are all of you Outraged people going to start calling Brad Pitt a Rapist?

    Bet more than half of the women posting here would be all over Brad Pitt the
    Statutory Rapist if given the chance.

    • Michael Louro

      “Put your titty back up Adele” – Brad Pitt as Early Grayce in Kalifornia

  • Teller

    Obviously the girl had no issues with it. For all we (or you in particular) know is she could have instigated the relationship. Yes, that’s possible. I work with many young women. They are very flirtatious and I’m not even rich and famous. Move on lady. He’s dead and you’re bitter.

  • Nik

    Yes he was cute. Yes he was a pedophile. Yes he died, but we all have to do it. What I see here is people defending pedophilia and excusing it. Is that the contribution you want to make to society? UNprotect our children? It doesn’t matter that he’s cute, or rich and famous, or you’re a perv who wants a young girlfriend. It’s against the law for a reason. And in California, the age I consent is 18. That’s because they lack the experience and judgment of adults. If you think it’s ok, then you most likely could use some counseling if you can see children sexually instead of as the children they are. And if you’d personally do this yourself, then be prepared to accept the consequences to those actions. That’s all there is to it.

  • Nik

    The reason we have laws is because of the people on this blog who are rationalizing and justifying breaking the law, because of people who have difficulty distinguishing between right and wrong, and because of people who think they’re exempt from the law. Do I want to extend my condolences to his family and friends? Of course. Does being dead qualify you for sainthood? No. Every person on earth is capable of both good and bad. Did he do a lot of great work on camera and off? Absolutely. If you’re a celebrity, people are always going to talk. Even more so if they’re involved in something controversial. It is what it is and it happened as a result of his choice and this is the consequence. As for the people on here telling others to get a life…you insulted yourself because you’re also a part of this blog. And putting down others doesn’t make you “more right.” It’s a great topic and an important one because it involves the protection of our children and I can’t think of a more important topic to take part in a debate on.

    • Sharron Carpenter Koch

      Wow, a voice of reason, moderation, sanity and calm in the middle of anger, mud slinging and name calling. Thank you Nik for providing an intelligent, thoughtful and meaningful comment instead of just something mean and hateful. Does not matter whether I agree with your point or not, just that I appreciate the point was written in a sane way.

  • Zederok

    It isn’t even more wrong then the whole Gay Marriage thing. To me that is something unnatural and creepy. I would think the Hollywood crown would be into all sorts of shenanigans like this. But I doubt you’ll ever write an article about gays or other more “mainstream” immoral activities that plague this country.

    • Joan

      What the @#@&# Zederock? What does Gay marriage have to do with this topic? At least with gay marriage, you have two legally consenting adults entering into a relationship. The key words here are legally consenting.

      Are you equating gays with predatory childhood sexual behavior? You realize there are gay people on this board you are calling immoral and offending?

      Your posts were great until I read this trash. Really.

    • sodakhic

      According to the government you’re not an adult till 27.

    • Justthefact1

      Joan do you think everyone accepts gay marriage?!! or are you living in a
      bubble @#$% ?? I sit here, seeing mudslinging at a
      person that was trying to do good and being put down for something that is not
      immoral at all!!! not by any religion that i can think of nor laws has he broken did he have sex with a 16yr old? innocent until proven guilty! USA law..
      yet the mere mention of gay marriage and
      you are going to go postal?? fk that intolerant BS..

      “Are you equating gays with predatory childhood sexual behavior? You
      realize there are gay people on this board you are calling immoral and
      offending?”

      but do you realize there are age gap couples on board that your offending , my parents my grand parents of this age gap! you equating Paul with being a sexual child predator and so too would my family and allot of other families I personally fuking know married younger women teen years them late 20s calling them equal to child predator and with Paul. you have no fucking proof of him having sex with her before the age of consent ..though he would be fine in my state and many others even if he did .
      .see all of you asses like to judge but then when it hits close to home you get pissed, well you deserve it anyone judging like this deserves what you get and deserves nonacceptance unless its a break of the law proven in court .still more than half the country he would be fine
      allot of people
      were raised to think gays and gay marriages were wrong like it or not! After being under the moral judgement of so many others would it be right to allow people under a different attack and not breaking the law because they do not fit into the norm to be talked about like they have done some big crime when in most states they have not?! and if no sex then in all states they did nothing wrong!

    • Mike Mc

      Stay on topic please.

  • Sherri Jackson Leinweber

    I agree illegal is illegal, but why now bring it up, why wasn’t it an issue when it 1st began. Evidently they have been together for 7 years or better, so I think they must of truly loved one another. Paul has also done a lot of charitable work and cared a lot about people. I just think this should of been brought up long ago, not now when his loved ones are still reeling from the pain of losing him. Most of us know that a 33 yr old dating a 16 yr. old is somewhat questionable, but there is also a thing called tactful and tactless, and bringing this up now after he died is being tactless.

  • sirus22

    my god you are one pathetic pea brain and I feel sorry for you. your parents have failed you. you present yourself as a sanctimonious, self righteous, judgmental, close minded idiot and people like you scare the crap out of me.

  • Quadcowgirl@yahoo.com

    Does anyone else think she was babysitting for him and this is how it all started?

    • Justthefact1

      NO ,they met in college.

  • FarltonFole

    The only reason people don’t consider him a pedophile is because they find him attractive. If he looked like Jerry Sandusky, or any of the losers on Dateline NBC, they would be saying good riddance.

  • USMC80

    pedo

  • jessica gwinn

    Lots of judgmental, narrow-minded people here. First of all, sixteen is not a ‘child’ so he’s not a ‘child predator.’ Get your facts straight. Secondly, you don’t know the circumstances of these people. You can only speculate. Leave the guy (and her) alone. Let him RIP and move on, people. Why not pay attention to more pressing and important issues – such as the war we’re STILL in? Or hey, the rampant corporate corruption in this country? The fact that your kid probably ate GMOs today? Or hey, that little economy problem we’re having? You know, IMPORTANT THINGS.

    • Mike Mc

      If a 33 year old began sniffing around my 16 year old……he would be gone the moment of discovery.

  • kwhit190211

    You people think & say what you think, but in all all it don’t mean diddly!! You can say she was underage or what not, While it might be frown on and you say she was only a child, don’t mean dick! You can say what you want to say about the situation but you can’t do nothing about it!! I know that for a fact, because I ran into the same situation with my daughter. I found out after the fact that she was sneaking around with a older guy, and she was also 16 at the time. I went to the cops, they told me that since she was 16 they couldn’t do anything about it. They told me that in their eyes she was the same as being 18. I even went to talk to the FBI to se if they could do something, that was useless as well. She eventually married the guy & even though he is a likeable enough of a guy & a good worker when he is not in jail for selling drugs. Yeah! One of those kind of guys. i have no idea why some women go after the bad ones. That’s what my youngest did & right now he is sitting in a Federal prison doing time. And, to this date I still have no idea just how old this guy actually is!!

  • Rain

    Men have been dating younger women for thousands of years. It’s the gays and feminists that are trying to making this seems creepy, yet it is trendy these days for older women to date younger men of age of consent. As for modern men, please grow some balls and stop with the PC bullshit. Stand up for yourselves.

  • Rain

    Men have been dating young women for thousands of years. Quite frankly many states have what is called an age of consent. It is the feminists and gays that are trying to turn something traditional into something creepy, yet it is trendy these days for older women to date younger men like Aaron Johnson and Taylor Wood of the Kick Ass movie franchise. As for all the heterosexual men here, grow some balls and stand up for yourselves. Get off this PC bullshit that is emasculating all of you.

  • zFashionizta

    WoW, I didn’t know this about him and now it changes my opinion of him; that is just downright disgusting behavior and is not acceptable.
    I will mourn him no more, I am completely against pedophiles, shame on you Paul that makes you a low life criminal!

    • Justthefact1

      You should crawl back under your rock

  • anonymouse

    Oh yes, bash a couple who’ve been together seven whole years because you find it creepy.

    Gee whiz, he’s an a list celeb with a perfect body. How is he even taking advantage of her? Goddamn, this was clearly written by some feminazi nutjob or some wrinkled prude.

  • David W

    Hey

  • David W

    Have you guys never heard or a BDSM Daddy/daughter relationship where the guy is older and the girl has a male role model that loves her deeply and teaches her and guides her along life’s paths. No I guess you rather her been dating guys her age that would do anything to get in her pants then run tell all their friends. You need to really take a serious look at your life. Our grandparents Dated and married at ages like this and even sometimes the girl was 13. Now all of a sudden anyone that loves someone under 18 is a pedophile. Stupid in my book. You should have never written this article to disgrace two human beings that added to this world not took away from it. They shared a love like few here seen to understand. Great thing about it they did not care and loved each other anyway.

    • Mike Mc

      Sorry, this age difference was VERY uncommon in the past century…..you are wrong.

    • Justthefact1

      Actually, not he is not, it was not VERY uncommon its been common and VERY common all over the world

    • Mike Mc

      Sweetie…if it was normal and common …..we wouldn’t be posting on here.

    • Justthefact1

      haha.. not uncommon in the rest of the world not uncommon here it is just that no one has been nosey enough to ask when they see a younger and older couple together to go up and ask if they are dating …as a matter of fact as i posted before ..there are 30 yr olds with 16 17 ..these people who are 30 look mid 20s sometimes can look even younger and the 16 plus can look older and it does not appear odd and you would not think much about it ..but the instant age is brought into it now some sort of a moral crime has happened ..because it is evil to be older ..even if those people are in a state that says it is fine it makes no different to you or others on this site.

  • Myob

    Gee…I have a thought. How about the fact that it’s none of our business who he dated? He was ok with it. She was ok with it, and obviously their families were ok with it. Who cares whether it’s ok with anyone else? It’s that old “Mind your own business” saying.

  • ageisjustanumber

    Love is love, and a dick is a dick. We know which is what and who is where.

  • Are you stupid?

    “Call me old fashioned.” HAHA. You stupid ass. Whether it is wrong or right is besides the point, but if you were truly “old fashioned” that might not bother you that much.

    It’s OK to feel it’s wrong, but don’t be a dumbass.

  • Muffin Man

    When I was 24 I was dating a 17 year old….everybody knew it, nobody ever said they were creeped out by it. She was very level-headed, never assumed it was a lifetime commitment, and she wound up ending the relationship after 3 years had passed. It certainly can be a problem, and teenagers need to be protected, absolutely – from others and themselves, but it isn’t always a sick horror story.

    • Mike Mc

      Perhaps you are a bit creepy. When I was 21, I began dating a girl that was just turning 18. I liked her very much, but the age difference was VERY obvious. I was MUCH more mature and experienced. Furthermore, people mentioned the age difference quite often.

  • Uncommon Sense

    I won’t call you old-fashioned because you’re ‘reasoning’ is
    completely new-fashioned. The reason
    this 16 year old was in the same relationship for seven years up until Paul’s
    death was because they were properly separated in age. There IS a reason for age consent laws
    and it has nothing to do with anything productive to society and everything to
    do with destruction of the family.

    If you wish to be called old-fashioned, then the only thing
    you should be concerned with was the ring missing from her finger; NOT her age;
    Unless, of course, you’re referring to her being a little old at 16. Come on; we’re being old-fashioned here. 13 to 14 was the norm as pre-socialist societies
    fashioned their civilizations with nature as their template; and at what age
    does nature loudly and messily announce a girl is ready? If you’re religious, replace nature in the
    last sentence with God. Either way, unless
    we’re claiming to be smarter than nature and/or God, maybe it’s time to reevaluate
    the government propaganda we’ve all grown up with.

  • religions&politics

    At least she isn’t a man.

  • jcoop

    Here we go again. It is truly amazing the value society is putting on these destructive, speed demons and druggies. Oh God, so and so OD’ed, Oh God, so and so ran into a light pole while doing 150 mph on a public street. I do not get 8it and then we find out more and more about their depraved live. Interesting, not.

  • Pooua

    “thought of a 16-year-old dating a 33-year-old makes me really uncomfortable.”

    Why? Tell me in words exactly what makes you, personally, uncomfortable about this?

    “while she was still underage.”

    What does that even mean? How did society decide that everyone suddenly becomes a semi-adult at 18, not before nor after? How did society decide that a romantic relationship across that divide is disgusting, but on the same side of it is commendable?

    “think of where you were at 16: in 10th or 11th grade, awkwardly losing your virginity”

    That’s actually the offensive part of this post. *I’m* the old-fashioned person, here, because *I* don’t believe in sex outside of marriage. I believe that a sexual relationship is a commitment, the most intimate thing that two people can do physically and rife with serious consequences.

  • Mandee Lynn

    When you’re in love, Age is nothing but a number. I wish people would just leave Paul and his family alone. Who cares? She isn’t 16 any freaking more! Damn.

  • TubifexWorm

    Age of consent laws vary from state to state and country to country. In 30 states of the United States, a 16-year-old is old enough to consent. Now it is true that California has an 18-year-old age of consent law. Doesn’t it seem strange that legal (and presumably “normal” in Arizona or Alabama is illegal (and presumably child-molestation) in California and some other states? But even so, charging a 33 year old man with a sex crime because of his relationship with a 16-year-old girl would require some additional information. Do you in fact know that there was anything sexual happening between them prior to their her 18th birthday. Perhaps while in California they only got together and played checkers. And what purpose is served by impugning the reputation of a man not alive to defend his actions or his character? Do you propose to charge him with a sex crime and have him tried, convicted and sentenced post mortem? Isn’t it too late for your concern to be of any value to anyone?

  • Tim Bolton

    apparently it wasn’t what you thought inasmuch as it survived 7 years and could I just bet that they were indeed in love…….I’m 76 and have learned that everything isn’t always best seen inside a box!!!

  • Daniel

    “Now, call me old-fashioned, but the thought of a 16-year-old dating a 33-year-old makes me really uncomfortable.”

    This writer is an idiot! Do you even know what old fashion means? Holy shit!

    A biologically normal relationship, and people are here throwing rocks, because it wasn’t gay, or inter-racial…

  • RealityBites

    The guy is dead and people are fussing about this? Age is just a number anyway or so the old saying goes. When I was in high school and had an older boyfriend as cute as him I would have been the envy of every girl in school.

  • Thomas Kelleher

    Deal with it. *yawn*

  • brett

    It’s highly unlikely that he broke any laws as the age of consent is typically 16 in most states. Morally, that’s a different story. But what I will say is, let’s not pick apart someone’s character when they’re dead and defenseless; with the line of demarcation being crossed only in the cases of the Ariel Castro’s & al-Assad’s of the world.

  • Dmoney

    I wish I could go to journalism school and write great stories about a dead guy’s “reportedly”
    minor girlfriend that was 16 when they may or may not of been together….8 years ago.
    Good job Samantha Escobar, go keep on being disgusted that he was in a longtime relationship that you just trash talked.
    Also – from the looks of it (last name) you are of spanish/latin/hispanic…columbian? decent. That said, you probably have catholics in your familia. Go look at the typical age of marriage and child birth for your mom and dad and grandparents and say thats disgusting for me.
    You mam are a doosh

  • 6384601

    In most states a 16yr old can have sex with an adult, unless that person is a teacher, counselor, or police officer. If she completed school and parents agreed with it then no issue. The laws are weird in this area, with concent of parents she could get married. Even in the old days a 13 yrar old bride would not be considered a child bride, J Lewqis. Strange but if they made i work then power to them.

  • chattycathy123

    He was not a “child predator”, so stop being such morons. She was not “underage”. Unless you found out she was actually 9 or even 11. Stop being so stupid. When he was 57 and she was 40, would he still be a predator? How exactly does that work in your sick mind. Jerry Lee Lewis he is not. She is not 12. She is not related to him. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid people.

    • FarltonFole

      The only stupid person here is you. She IS underage; in California, the age of consent is 18 you moron. You sound like a member of NAMBLA.

  • Dumb as Samantha

    Is now the time to talk about this? Gosh, I’m not sure but I sure am glad you’re “out there” to cover stories like this…it’s creepy and somehow wrong and if you didn’t write about it no one would know! Meanwhile, I’m looking at the “recommended by the gloss” that follow your story and the 1st one is a woman knitting with her vagina. The 2nd is about penis size as broken down state by state and the 4th one is a Disney star talking about his dick pic. what ever Paul walker did while he was alive is no longer being done.

    However…you continue to shamelessly “report” it to generate ad revenue. So, while what he did might have been “wrong”, “creepy” etc it is also equally reprehensible that you are out here attempting to make money off if it.

    What Paul did seems / feels wrong…just as wrong as what you’re doing.

    Do yourself a favor. Get a little self respect, apologize for trying to make some money off it this story and then go away, it’s not too late for another career.

    No really, go away.

    We accept your apology.

  • aiden

    Any person 21 years of age or older who commits the crime of sex with a minor UNDER 16 years of age is guilty of a misdemeanor or a felony. A misdemeanor conviction is punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year. A felony conviction is punished by imprisonment in a county jail for two, three or four years, or in the state prison, depending on the person’s criminal history. (CA Penal Code § 265.1 (d)

  • Whoa Nelly!

    If her parents consented for her, it was legal and perfectly ok

  • jack_sprat2

    Putting aside the creepy factor, the age of consent in Jolly Old is 16 years, so the young lady in question was NOT jail bait. Heck, in nearby Spain, it’s 13 y.o. Different strokes, so to speak.

    By the by, I’ve lived in Michigan most of my life. It’s 16 here, as well, as it is in MORE THAN HALF of the States in the Union.

    FWIW, Ronnie Reagan “took” Liz Taylor’s virginity when she was but 15 y.o. He was then 36. They remained lifelong friends; she was frequently a guest at the White House in their later years.

    • Mike Mc

      Who cares what the legal ages are….it’s just creepy to date a HS girl when you are twice their age.

  • KJ

    Finally someone addressed that. His ex was also -6 when they started dating

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Who cares, really? Brad Pitt did the same thing at 26.

  • Sascha

    So that mean he is a Pedophile .

  • Sascha

    Why he want register as a Sex Offender ? Where was a FBI ? Where was a Parents ? Cmon people don’t you see whats going on ? She was a child . And he was an Old Man ? Where is a Nancy Disgrace ?

    • Man_Of_Sin

      There is no law on dating and a child is someone who has not reached puberty.

  • RIYADHMIKE

    How about Elvis? Why don’t you criticize him.

  • Ed

    This isn’t something new; while Elvis Presley was in the army and stationed in West Germany, he met his future wife Priscilla Beaulieu(sp?) and started dating her when she was 15. And being Elvis, he even got her parent’s permission to have her move back home with him and complete her education in the US, and once she was old enough, they were married.

    Just because people are dating doesn’t mean they’re having sex.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Priscilla Presley was old enough to marry Elvis when she turned 18. They didn’t marry when she was 18 but she was 21 when they married. Living in Tennessee, Elvis could have gotten permission to marry her earlier than that with her parents’ permission. Priscilla missed her cycle, told Elvis and they were married within a week of her getting her test results back confirming the pregnancy. Yeah. They had sex. So did Walker and his underage girlfriend.

  • Vinsanity

    How is it not creepy? At 16 he can still control her mind, shes wasnt smart yet. At 16 youre still very naive. He was a old man compared to her (old enough to be her daddy), he was probably raising her just the way he wanted ( his little girl). He knew what he was doing. Sick bastard. (R.I.P)…..P.S. I have a daughter and if she starts dating an old man thats 15 years her senior or even over the age consent then im gonna make sure he crashes into a light pole as well.

  • chiluvr1228

    It seems everyone is assuming their relationship involved sex from the beginning. As shocking as it may seem, not every couple engages in premarital sex. As far as Elvis, he didn’t have sex with Priscilla until their wedding night and Lisa Marie was born 9 months after the wedding.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Priscilla didn’t have sex with Elvis until their wedding night? You don’t HONESTLY believe that? Priscilla WAS pregnant when she married Elvis which is why they got married within a week of her getting test results back. Babies are never born right at the 9 month mark, they can either come early or be late. Priscilla was a few weeks overdue when she delivered Lisa. She’d been having sex regularly with Elvis from the moment she moved into Graceland.

  • drcathytodd001@yahoo.com

    Seems Samantha needed to write something to get her fee–she could have used better timing. And age 16 is the age of consent in most states so he was doing nothing wrong anyway—just more sensationalism by a press that has gone amok in the USA

    • Nick Mullinix

      Age 16 is technically the age of consent, but most states have restrictions requiring that, at age 16-17, the partner cannot be more than 4 years older, or in a position of authority.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Nick. 16 is not the age of consent, technical or otherwise in the state of California where this relationship was conducted. Age of consent is 18. She wasn’t 18.

    • Nick Mullinix

      Let me re-post this quote from eglooney, just a little below on this page:

      “My dad was 25… mom was 16 when they got married.

      They’re still married.

      They’re still in love with each other.

      They have some awesome stories.

      59 years married this next July.

      Be weirded out all you want… but keep the judgements in your own
      pockets. YOUR relationships may well be more disgusting than his.”

    • DuchessofDownton

      Nick, Congrats on your parents. So happy for them. I’m guessing your mom had to get her parents’ permission to marry at 16 OR they didn’t live in the State of California where the age of consent is 18 years old and anyone under the age of 18 must obtain a parent’s permission to marry.

      Also, you completely disregard the fact that 16 year old girls 59 YEARS AGO are not the same 16 year old girls today. They’re much more immature these days despite the fact that they have a woman’s body. This is why states of Age of Consent Laws, Pedophile Laws, and Registered Sex Offender Laws.

      I’m not casting any aspersions to Walker’s personality other than he should have exercised some restraint, modesty and decency and not gotten involved with a 16 year old little girl. No benefit of the doubt for Mr. Cool Car Movie. He engaged in inappropriate intimacies with a minor and it was hushed up. Fact.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Let me repost something: And spare me the slop about “soul mates” and all of that crap. The second he found out she was 16, he should have moved on. He didn’t. His money, his fame and his popularity bought him entree into a situation that otherwise would have landed him in jail. Elvis had the same odd taste for young girls and his fame, money and popularity bought him a bye as well. Charlie Chaplin had the same strange proclivity as well and was damn near arrested for statutory rape except that he married Lita Grey which negated the charge.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Well, she would have wrote this 7 years ago if Walker and his agent hadn’t hushed it up.

  • Nick Mullinix

    “Now, call me old-fashioned, but the thought of a 16-year-old dating a 33-year-old makes me really uncomfortable.”

    No, I wouldn’t call that old-fashioned. I’d call that VERY new-fashioned. If you were old-fashioned, you would be asking why she isn’t married, or at least engaged by age 16.

  • Lucie

    Thank you for putting out there my exact sentiment. Yes, it is a sad tragedy that this person died; but the thing that struck me more than anything was that no one is talking about his pedophiliac tendencies – which is all you can call a 16 year old dating a 33 year old. Of course, it’s unseemly to talk of such things when someone has died in a tragic way, but it does not change the fact that it occurred.

  • RIP PAUL WALDER

    WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE? KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND LET HIM REST IN PEACE, IT ALREADY HAPPEN AND IT IS NOT LONGER A CONCERN!!! AND IF ANYTHING THE PARENTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF WHO THE DAUGHTER WAS DATING AND THEY ARE AT FAULT AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIP!

    • Mike Mc

      Becoming a celebrity has positives and negatives. One negative is that your secrets and personal life make the news.

    • DuchessofDownton

      WOW… someone is obviously upset that his favorite cool car movie star was less than super cool.

  • Frank Mondana

    Most of the 16 year old kids in my school dated and did college students as well as older folks. This was done by both guys and girls and this was 30 years ago.
    I love how we adults come down with amnesia when remembering our past. We were all perfect, got straight A’s and never inhaled.
    We also tend to forget that at 16 we were pretty damn sure we were all grown up and that our parents were stupid for treating us like little kids.
    I’m not defending anyone here. I’m just tired of Adult Onset Amnesia, placing ourselves on pedestals, and the current fad of being “outraged” about everything.

    • Mike Mc

      I didn’t know too many 16 year olds dating people over 30…..in fact…I knew none personally.

  • Joe Marciana

    Age of consent laws, though different from state to state mostly say that a 16 year old can consent to sex with someone 21 and under. After 21 they define sex with a 16 year old as statutory rape. Dating is a grey area.. parental consent is required and often consenting parents can still be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. IMO.. nasty. Morgan Freeman is also in a relationship like this. With his Niece by marriage.

  • Pat Davis

    People tend to say with these relationships that it’s a power thing that the older guy needs. I tend to say it’s more about he’s looking for a comfort level that a woman his own age could not give him, for whatever reason. Safety in youth, but how stimulating does that get after a while?

  • Ebop

    Walkers death was not a tragedy, it was reckless stupidity.

  • Tbone

    He was a thrill seeker.. .boning underage women is risky just like he was with the rest of his life… in it for the thrill.

  • valerie

    I’ve never agreed with that thing I’ve seen/heard about not saying anything negative about the dead. You say what is the Truth. There are worse things than this, but it always made me sick when they’d say all these good things about a person who was bad, just because they died. So is this why he left his wife/family?….a girl underage?…

    • DuchessofDownton

      Paul Walker never left his wife. He never married the mother of his daughter.

  • rjc

    well in ny and la even teens from serberbia have their own and functional adult lives….not saying he was right but im sure she lied about her age to get the man she desired….and it worked; typical American teen behaviors. Globally, their is no age restriction, and ironically their relationships last an average 20 years younger….e.g., a 15 year old in Spain was breaded to adore and take care of a man, she most likely can cook, take care of kids, and has a great sense of saving money….in the u.s. however most women are 30 before they acquire that part of wisdom.

  • Keith

    So, mid thirties and 18 is better?

    • DuchessofDownton

      It might not be better but it IS legal.

    • Keith

      16 is the age of consent in many states

    • DuchessofDownton

      But not in California where they conducted this relationship.

    • Keith

      I don’t know the law, but it must have been fine with the girls parents or they would have reported it.

  • Henry Bowman

    Just another hollywood creep. As I was already confused as to what the fuss was about, this only adds to my confusion.

  • Lisas Tiels

    And nobody cares about this at all until.now?? Not when the relationship first began or the 7 years it went on, just now that this poor man is deceased! I knew……I knew someone, somewhere would try to find something to bash this man who never did anything but good and try to help people!! Was this relationship right? No even at 23 and 40, to big an age gap what could they possibly have in common? But to bring this up NOW???? You people sicken me, that you stop at nothing to turn a beloved human being, not an actor a human being into some kind of perverted psycho. Like I said I knew someone would come up with something, and you sicken me!!! RIP Paul these people can’t tarnish your imagine to those of us who don’t want it to be. Rest easy!

    • Mike Mc

      Few people know about this 7 years ago, that is why it is brought up.
      A lot of dirt comes out after death unfortunately.

  • yonkinator@yahoo.com

    And where were her parents when a 33-year old started sniffing at their daughter’s trail. Oh, I know. They were blinded by the lights of his stardom, fame, and money.

  • C Cna Alvarado

    Gosh, I thought this would never come up. Listen, when I heard about this guys passing, I cried…why? who the hell knows..he’s just part of what I grew up watching. He is an awesome man for all the help he has given to countries in need and God will see that. HOWEVER, when I read about WHEN he started dating her, NOT THE AGE DIFFERENCE, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE MICHAEL DOUGLAS AND CLINT EASTWOOD THAT HAVE MARRIED WOMEN THAT WERE WAAAAYYYY YOUNGER THAN THEY WERE, but it’s about WHEN HE STARTED DATING HER, I was stunned! I have a 19 year old and it automatically came to me, “what the hell was this guy thinking?” Also, I saw an interview in Univision for his new movie and he clearly says he is a very protective father and he makes sure the boys she sees behave. I thought that was kind of odd considering he dated his girlfriend right about his daughters’ age…any how, thanks for bringing this up with respect, because maybe not everybody thought about it, but some of us did.

  • 1Sonny2

    Not as creepy as Gay Priests

  • Teame Zazzu

    “Now, call me old-fashioned, but the thought of a 16-year-old dating a 33-year-old makes me really uncomfortable. ” HAHAHAHA

    NO. No danger of being called old fashioned. Have you ever studied the old fashions? They involve guys in their 30′s marrying gals who were in their teens for most of recorded history. Sorry, it was just such a great example of how the people today take their artificial moraility and try and project it onto everyone everywhen. Todays morality is more made up than ever before…

  • Chris Dumbaugh

    Why assume they were having sex at all, particularly before she turned 18?

  • Andrea Arnold

    Maybe they waited till she was 18 to have sex. As long as both of their families were ok with it,it shouldn’t bother anyone else. Once again,too each his own..you gossip drama losers.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Maybe they waited….most likely they didn’t.

  • TryThinking1956

    Agreed. It was very, very wrong. I don’t care how long her legs were or how big her boobs were, she was an adolescent – likely more 15 than 16 – with a child’s emotional and sexual immaturity. It’s one thing for a 16 year old to be secretly fumbling around in a car with her 17 year old boyfriend, and quite another for her to be in a relationship with a 33 year old man! And if he hadn’t been “Paul Walker – Rich Movie Star”, but Pauly Walker the 33 year old corner weed dealer, her parents would have had him arrested!

    • Shepherdsgirl

      I have to disagree. We are all individuals and thank God the law makers acknowledge that. I was 16 in the mid 70′s, much more mature than my friends and ready to start life on my own. I married at 16, have been married to the same man for over 40 years. I was more than mature enough to start my home, learn to cook, mend, and keep my home spotless. My husband and I were and still are best friends and lovers. Just as it should be. Since the beginning of time younger girls have been given in marriage to older men, some against their wishes. Each generation has its own idea of what a proper age is for being mature unto dating or marriage, and we often wrap our opinions around the current norm. That doesn’t mean others are wrong in that they don’t conform to the current norm.

      As far as sexual immaturity…. we all ought to be exactly that until we marry. Spouses should learn together how to enjoy each other. JMHO

    • Mike Mc

      Ok, but how old was your husband when you were 16?

    • Justthefact1

      like age matters if they stayed together 40 FKN years ..omg!..

    • Mike Mc

      I am an Atheist, but I have judgement and morals.

      Your statement is true…..age difference diminishes as people age…..i.e Like a 20 year old dating a 12 year old…just 8 years.

    • Justthefact1

      yes, but we both agree that would be wrong! hahha

    • Justthefact1

      She was in college already so she was mentally ahead of the game and so i think your idea is false …completely

  • RRozsa

    Just because they were dating when she was 16 doesn’t mean they were having sex. I dated a 36-year-old man when I was 16 but it was innocent – we never did anything but kiss. I did not have sex until I was 20. Unless there is sex involved, I don’t think there is any law against underaged dating, otherwise no one would even date at all until they were out of high school!

  • Robyn

    A relationship between a sixteen year old and a thirty-three year old may be creepy, but it may not be illegal, depending on where one is located.

    Each US state has its own age of consent. State laws set the age of consent at 16, 17 or 18. The most common age is 16.

    age of consent 16 (30): Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia

    age of consent 17 (9): Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Wyoming

    age of consent 18 (11): Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin,

    • DuchessofDownton

      Well they lived in California. She was under age, he wasn’t.

  • bob

    #TRASHY – You call his death a tragedy and then jump at the chance to suggest that he was a sexual predator? Seems if this was news worthy it should of come up 7 years ago. It occurs to me that tact was not what you were interested in. I don’t know the guy either but I know enough to see someone trying to cash in and appear relevant.

    • Mike Mc

      The author likely did not know about this 7 years ago…..many people didn’t.

    • DuchessofDownton

      No one is suggesting anything. If Mr. Walker, regardless of your fondness for his Fast and Furious movies and super cool cars, was sleeping with a 16 year old girl, then cool car movies or not, he was a sexual predator. And consider your late idol very, very lucky. If the press HAD gotten wind of it, Fast and Furious movies would have gone on without him while he lived out the rest of his short life in jail and on the National Sex Offender Register.

  • billybatson

    I was sleeping with a women old enough to be my mother when I was fifteen…and I loved every minute of it……she was my first and best lover.

    She was the librarian at the public library in the lower west side of NYC, and she not only introduced me to some great sex, she introduced me to some great books, Among them, the classics.

  • http://www.pastorweekly.info Pastor Romell Weekly

    If it’s not illegal, we shouldn’t have an issue with it. The idea of 16 being too young is, I think, a *responsible* point of view, but it’s nowhere near absolute. Even today, different cultures (and even American states) have different laws about the age of consent. If the age of consent was 16 in their state, I don’t think it’s anyone’s business. That said, I’m 33 and wouldn’t even date someone 25, let alone someone 16; so I don’t know what the heck they had in common or could really share. But, that’s just my opinion. I’m not going to criticize a dead man for doing something that wasn’t illegal, and that one couldn’t even consider immoral or unethical. Suum cuique.

  • Jordan R. Smith

    You don’t understand because you’re a 24 year old woman, of course YOU’RE going to think it’s creepy because you have no ability to see anything from anyone else’s perspective: especially a rich and famous 33 year old man. Unless you have the ability to see things from other people’s perspective and understand them, then you’ll always be an obscure, unknown journalist, especially because you write bash pieces about things you don’t understand.

  • huh

    This was not his only 16 year old girlfriend as an adult. From what I have read about the guy he was on his own since he was 16. From his life experience that meant maturity to him. My issue is also that these relationships were known at the time they happened and no one intervened. The movies were more important than the child.

  • Sharon Ormsby

    Actually it is against the law if sex is involved for a teenager to be with an adult man, at 16 or 17 and even 18 is she was still in high school…it didn’t matter if he was her teacher or not. If there is more than two years separation and in some states, three years, the adult can be arrested, male or female. If both are underage but there is more than the two-three year age spread (depending on the state) and sex is involved, arrests can be made. It doesn’t matter what a 16 year old’s feelings are, she was still a youth and he was 33…the mother who allowed her to date him should be held responsible. I’m sorry, but Paul Walker could have waited until she was 18 to date her. It’s more than creepy, it’s pedophilia.

    • roaminglion

      It’s not illegal to “date her” as you say. So no, the mother should not be held responsible for anything. Now, if they were having sex, then that’s an entirely different subject. However, just going out on dates is not illegal.

    • DuchessofDownton

      I sincerely doubt that they were “just doing out on dates”…

    • roaminglion

      Who knows, unless someone was following them around

    • Man_Of_Sin

      You don’t seem to know much about the law or what pedophilia is.

  • Sleeeeeeeeeeeece

    Don’t you ehmm ehferr’s have anything else to talk crap about? Get a life Samantha. For all we know, you’re probably doing the high school quarterback yourself.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Get off Samantha’s ass. I get that she’s burst your bubble about your Fast and Furious idol, but the fact is, he more than likely was having sex with an underage girl.

    • Sleeeeeeeeeeeece

      Get off that bullshit, it’s all just hearsay. These lameass “bloggers” have no other career choices and that’s why they sit there typing up crap they know nothing about. It’s like getting a BA in psychology! It’s the easiet ish to do❗️Why even talk about this rumor about someone who is dead and not be able to fend for themselves? If Samantha was “freaked out” about it, why didn’t she bring it up before? Stop with the BS and get a real life and pay your taxes. There’s something productive.

  • Shazamm1122

    If under eighteen is a child then why did I go to an adult prison at 17?

  • rooscow

    Sorry Samantha, it’s more unfortunate that you see fit to whine about something that is five years past being somewhat appropriate. Your perspective, which you are totally entitled to have, is much like finding a drop of blood and creating a complete living organism on pure speculation. Calendar age is but one way of measuring one’s maturity. Many children that are the youngest of the family are much more adept at dealing with older people than many of equal or more years. But, that doesn’t take advantage of the horrendous looking ancient history to get people to read a story that could have been a deep human interest piece, but turned out to be pandering to the people always looking for dirt to talk about.

  • Jess Jack

    When I first heard the news about his death and his 7-year relationship with a girl who is 23, I did the math too and I agree with an earlier post on here, about how the media must’ve known about this before. Didn’t this girl’s parents have something to say about this? My daughter’s 16 and I wouldn’t have allowed her to date a 30-something man. I don’t want her being chumming with 18yr.olds,as it is. Here in Michigan, there’s a law about statutory rape. An 18 yr. old boy can be charged with it, if he’s having sex with his girlfriend, even if she’s only days away from being 18. Truthfully, I don’t how Mr. Walker legally got around this. But maybe things are d different in CALI.

    • roaminglion

      It’s illegal to have sexual intercourse with someone under 18 in California. It’s not illegal to date them.

    • Jess Jack

      Yeah,that’s the law in MI too. It’s a hands-off. Clothes-on type of policy. I don’t know what the big thing about being 18 is. Besides, the fact that most kids are out of high school around that age, it’s not like there’s this big physical and mental metamorphosis that happens on the eve of your 18th birthday. But I guess that lines and boundaries have got to be drawn somewhere.

  • 8Dana8

    I think it’s very mean to judge others by your own standards. Just because you jump in bed with any boyfriend/girlfriend, and all you think of is the intimate part of relationship, it does not mean that others do same thing. I was not a fan of Paul Walker, never even heard of him before his death’s announcement, just to be clear. I’m not a rabid fan etc etc, I think there might still be people who respect each other in early stages of relationship.

  • Enrique

    Listen my parents were the exact same age when they meet, love each other and I have 2 sisters, all while both maintain careers, life, and this is a stable home, we are not rich.

    They got married,THEN had children.

    So this article just seems like a cheap shot at trying to slander a dead man when no one could while he was alive.

    • Mike Mc

      Just because your parents were creepy doesn’t make it right.

    • Justthefact1

      then i guess mine are as well huh? my Grandparents as well? i bet if you look at your family tree somewhere on it is the same thing or your friends if you have any. You saying what is right or not from what your own beliefs are whatever to you .. others have their own beliefs as well and what makes you think your belief is better? his parents relationship worked my grandparents and parents did as well.why not instead of judging that …..here judge my middle finger stuck up in your face, that is far more wrong than an age gap relationship ..

    • Mike Mc

      You are making a judgement as well. You support it, I don’t.
      Citing your family tree does not support a moral argument.
      If your Grandpa robbed a bank, would you support theft?

      If you want to stick you middle finger somewhere you will need my permission.

    • Justthefact1

      lol… .no I judge by the past how our country grew strong anyhow and also how then most people would not have a problem with it ..and most morals if they are ultimate truths like theft murder lies and such would not be argued as good , and believe it or not most Americans have no problem with age differences just some states ..and these States which are in the minority are influenced by the very laws of that state.. they are in

      ,which is more than likely why the state passed a particular age law different than another in the first place. because the majority of that state voted for those ages..

      Now Saying someone is morally wrong or corrupt when YOU are in the minority who is against it ,is simply rediculous to me.

      .You have only opinions and is not accepted not even by 30% of the population.
      People non religious and others, always had a problem being judged by other people especially of the Christian faith for instance, where they attained allot of their moral values from the Bible, but at least they believed that God had stated this and it was absolute. You make a blanket statement judgement ..at least i know not every couple should be together young and older ..some should be with their own ages and others not but it should be up to them without people pointing fingers and name calling ..typical bully strategy .

  • Stfu Stu

    Oh STFU

  • Bob

    But this author has no problem when it is a woman seducing a male at that age. This author is a total hypocrite.

  • Danllo

    Way to go Ms Escobar. The guy’s grave has barely settled and you’re trampling all over it. The consenting age in the US is between 16 and 18 years old. Is there any evidence that he took advantage of this young lady? None. Leave the man alone.

  • poeticrhetoric

    I’m not touching this one……

    • ralph

      that is what he should have said…..

  • BustedInPublic

    “There’s a reason the phrases “child bride” and “Courtney Stodden” weird us the F out. I’m only 24 and I wouldn’t dream of having a relationship with a high schooler because it’s uncomfortable, creepy and–obviously–illegal”

    LOL you were probably stroking the soft hair of some hunky 15 year old while writing this

  • Jaeger

    do you think i really care? hell even if i was 16 again if a guy that hot and wealthy and nice came up to me id go out with him in a heart beat!

  • Kay King

    My problem is where the heck were her parents, not watching over or teaching this girl not to be loose.

  • Michael Forrest

    Under most circumstances I’d be uncomfortable with it… but here’s why I’m not… first, they’re still together… 7 years later and they were still a couple. Maybe that says they were supposed to be together. They proved the test of time. Second, a relationship lasting that long and her parents surely knew about it. If they signed off on it, then I’m not going to put my nose where it doesn’t belong. I think they get a pass from me… I hope they get a pass from most of you as well….

    • FarltonFole

      You look and sound like a burgeoning pedophile. Did you steal that paragraph from the NAMBLA site?

    • Michael Forrest

      I don’t know how to break this to you, but you’ve gone completely off your meds. It’s called “social media” and if you can’t figure out how to respond to people to whom you disagree with, then you shouldn’t be on a computer. Now, why don’t you log-off and say good night before I contact your mom and dad and have them use parental controls on the computer so you can’t use it again. It’s clearly way beyond your social skill set. Good night, jerk off, wherever you are!

    • FarltonFole

      You just wrote a paragraph justifying 33 year old men dating 16 year olds. I’m here to tell you that you sound like a member of NAMBLA. That is all. I’ll stay away from the computer if you please stay away from the kids.

    • Nick Mullinix

      FarltonFole, you may be in the running for stupidest person on the face of the Earth.

    • FarltonFole

      Ha, let me guess, you actually ARE the stupidest person on Earth? I’m sorry if me thinking 33 year old men dating 16 year olds is a little odd. I know daddy probably touched you. It’s okay. It’s over now; no need to justify your feelings. Thank God we have laws against people like you.

    • Justthefact1

      I think you are advertising for them or you would not keep using this name it feels like any opportunity you get you use their group name ..why are you advertising?

  • Sarah Peters

    I think everyone needs to move on – the man is dead.

  • Kylie Wiley

    Legal age of consent in most states is 15.

    • FarltonFole

      The state he was in it was 18. He’s a child predator by legal standards.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Child predators are defined by law to go after under 13 year olds in most states.

  • Shawn Riddick

    What is creepy is someone thinking it is creepy. I do not think God would have a problem with it, or Canada, or Nevada. Only a bunch of idiots and sheeple would have a problem. The USA now has the largest prison population in all of human history. Over 200,000 over 200,000 over 200,000 Americans are raped in prisons every year. No other nation comes close. America is sick. Evil is in the air and clearly something has gone horribly wrong with our society. I wonder how old Mary was when she had Jesus? Please read warningfromgod and survive.

  • Gawkes

    His previous girl was 16 as well

  • MikeS1961

    Gross. He was a pedo.

    • Nick Mullinix

      The condition of being attracted to post-pubescent teenagers or adolescents recognized as ephebophilia, and sharply distinguished from pedophilia by the American Psychiatric Association. Get a clue.

  • Gertrude Stein

    Funny you mention “old school” in the old days older men getting with a younger women was pretty common. Freaking out about it is a new attitude.

  • Dumb it down

    They must have had great conversations…

  • Eddy Clark

    261.6. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289,
    in which consent is at issue, “consent” shall be defined to mean
    positive cooperation in act or attitude pursuant to an exercise of
    free will. The person must act freely and voluntarily and have
    knowledge of the nature of the act or transaction involved.
    A current or previous dating or marital relationship shall not be
    sufficient to constitute consent where consent is at issue in a
    prosecution under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289.
    Nothing in this section shall affect the admissibility of evidence
    or the burden of proof on the issue of consent.

    Then read about Parental Consent…
    At least he stayed with her.
    I wonder what skeletons are in YOUR closet…
    I’m going to find out…

  • sir paul m

    it’s none of your goddam damn business bunch of busy bodies

  • Rick

    Bogey was 25 years older than Bacall.

  • JJsooner1

    Why bring this up now? Why not when he was alive and able to respond? I’m in no position to judge anyone. You know “judge not, lest ye be judged”? Questionable article, bad timing, poor judgement.

    • Rich White Guy

      I’m one to judge. This is creepy.

    • JJsooner1

      Ummmm no your not. Nor is anyone else. We don’t know the circumstances even a little bit. People just like you and the airhead who wrote this article have one thing in common. Too damn stupid to get over yourselves.

  • Big Picture 144

    Creepy guy known to a few gearhead movie fans. Zoom, oops, crash, awww.

  • Wile_E_Coyote

    “I wouldn’t dream of having a relationship with a high schooler because it’s uncomfortable, creepy and–obviously–illegal” <—– not only isn't it obvious, that's false in many jurisdictions. Moralize all you want but try not to make factual claims without, you know, checking.

    • Rich White Guy

      I might dream, but I certainly would not do it.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Why not? Studies say it’s okay.

  • Dean Alvarez

    How can you judge him when you don’t know how they met and what were the circumstances of their falling in love. You don’t judge two men when they fall in love with each other after meeting at a cruise spot or gay bar; so how can you judge these two people when they certainly could have met in a totally innocent way and discovered that they were meant for each other.

  • eglooney

    My dad was 25… mom was 16 when they got married.

    They’re still married.

    They’re still in love with each other.

    They have some awesome stories.

    59 years married this next July.

    Be weirded out all you want… but keep the judgements in your own pockets. YOUR relationships may well be more disgusting than his.

    • FarltonFole

      Don’t leave your dad around kids, if he’s still around. A 25 year old man going to high school dances and such is inappropriate, and at the very least, pathetic.

    • Nick Mullinix

      FarltonFole… neither you nor I have any concept of what the world was like 59 years ago. The difference between you and I is that I am not too stupid to realize that.

    • FarltonFole

      You stated absolutely nothing. You don’t even know my age, nor who I am beyond a screen name posting online. To think it was normal for 25 year olds to marry 16 year olds in the US, 59 years ago, is utterly absurd. That’s why he mentioned it in the first place. Mr. Dick Mullinix, think critically for once in your life.

    • Nick Mullinix

      I am thinking critically. You are the one who is blindly regurgitating condemnations without any actual knowledge of the situation at hand.

    • FarltonFole

      Wrong. Try critically thinking again; you have failed. The man has given enough information to realize (for a critical thinking person to realize) that the situation described is not normal. That’s why there were laws then and laws now that protect children against minds like your own. You fucking retard, go back to your NAMBLA meeting.

    • Nick Mullinix

      If you look at the history of my comments on this subject, you will see that I am reserving judgement. I am neither condemning nor condoning the actions of either eglooney’s parents (above) or Paul Walker. This is because the only information I have is a few paragraphs in some no-name blog and one comment someone posted about his parents. Critical thinking is not the ability to form a strong opinion based on very little information. That is called assumption. Critical thinking is making a smart choice based on the information you have, which is not much in this case. Therefore, the smart choice is to reserve judgement pending further data.
      I can only speculate as to the reason for your unusually strong feelings on this matter. My best guess is that you are actually a lover of young girls, but are too old, fat, and/or ugly to receive reciprocal attention from them. I bet you’re really bitter about it when you see someone like Paul Walker, who you perceive to have what you want. I would be willing to bet that the browsing history on your computer is littered with sites depicting young girls in bikinis and underwear.
      By the way, NAMBLA is for sick fucks who like boys. Christ, even your insults are wrong.
      I can’t wait to hear how angry you get when you read this. Just remember, the angrier you get, the more likely it is that I’m right on the money in my assessment of you.

    • FarltonFole

      Wrong again Dick. Try critical thinking again, because you have failed, again. If you learn critical thinking skills and learn to read properly, you will finally come to understand the logic of my previous statements, and the illogic of your own (hopefully).

      Also, NAMBLA advocates the dating of underage children, like what Paul Walker and the original poster’s father did.

      Have a nice day, Dick. :)

    • Nick Mullinix

      Your use of the term “critical thinking” reminds me of someone I used to know. He would hear a word or phrase that sounded smart, and then proceed to use it over and over, very rarely correctly.

    • Nick Mullinix
    • Nick Mullinix

      Oh, one more thing, you piece of garbage…
      I’ve seen you threaten some other posters with “trouble”
      If you’d like to leave me your email address, I’ll send you my street address, and you can come and try to make “trouble” for me. We’ll see how well that goes for you.

    • FarltonFole

      http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/200/420/BRTky.jpg

      PS: I used the word “problems,” not trouble. Mr. Critical Thinking Dick.

    • Nick Mullinix

      Well, isn’t that just perfect coming from the most pathetic keyboard-warrior I’ve ever seen.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Brad Pitt dated 16 year old Juliette Lewis when he was 26.

  • Roger

    Fortunately we live in a free society where, if something is within the law, we are free to do it. If a 33-year old wants to date a 16-year old who is not his/her student and vice versa, the rest of us can go pound sand because they are free to do it, regardless of what any prude thinks. I personally think it is much creepier to see all the fat men and women in relationships, and the flab lying around the bed when they are having sex.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Personally, I think your prejudice of fat people is pretty creepy. But I’ll be happy to remind you of your comments regarding the late Mr. Walker when some 33 year old comes letching around YOUR 16 year old daughter. Maybe they held hands until she was 18. Probably not.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Her parents approved so your argument is redundant.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Her parents are morally bankrupt and your use of redundant is incorrect.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Irrationality>Subjective morality.

      “Two studies have investigated the association between age difference and aspects of females’ sexual debut. Abma and colleagues used 1995 NSFG data to examine partner age difference in the context of measuring “wantedness” of first intercourse. Their findings suggested that wantedness is inversely related to the age difference between a young woman and her partner, and that it may be related to her limited control over the situation.6 Furthermore, Leitenberg and Saltzman found that among females who had had first sexual intercourse at ages 11-12, those who had a partner five or more years their senior had an elevated risk of attempted suicide, substance abuse and pregnancy. Among females who had had first intercourse between the ages of 13 and 15, having older partners was associated only with truancy. In contrast, among females whose age at first intercourse was 16-18, having older partners was not linked to these negative outcomes. Thus, adverse effects of partner age difference may lessen as females mature.7″

      http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3430402.html

  • DuchessofDownton

    Let’s be frank: Paul Walker and Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell weren’t just holding hands and making out while she was under the age of 18. No 33 year old man is going to wait two years to start sleeping with his girlfriend unless he was brought up to the values of waiting to have sex until marriage. Paul Walker did not follow the “wait to mate” concept. That’s not judgmental…that’s just a fact. They were having sex. While she was underage.

    When Roman Polanski did it, everyone in Hollywood cried for his head on a platter. Mr. Fast and Furious does it and you all go on a wink-and-ignore-it-self righteous rant about the author of the article being judgmental.

    Paul Walker was having sex with his underage girlfriend. If his charities, affable personality and thirst for fast cars absolves him of this in your eyes, this says far more about you and your values than it does Mr. Walker’s. But the blatant not-talked-about-fact is that, should anyone have made a stink about it, Mr. Walker’s career would have been over, he would have served time in jail and spent the rest of his short life on the Registered Sex Offender List. Those aren’t judgments. Those are legal facts.

    • Nick Mullinix

      What “values” are you talking about? You sound like a good, Christian woman. Yet you’re condemning a relationship that would’ve been commonplace in biblical times, and in just about every “Christian” society up until about 75 years ago. And in that last 75 years of moral belt-tightening, tell me how society has improved as a result of it. Seems that the more we repress, the more f’ed up we become. Oh yeah, ever heard of “for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”?

    • DuchessofDownton

      Nick: We’re not talking biblical times. We are talking 2013 where having sex with every person you date is societally acceptable. 16 year old girls today are not the same 16 year olds in biblical times or even 50 years ago. They’re very much still children…little girls in biological women’s bodies. Walker was twice her age and it was his job to show morality and restraint. He did neither. No benefit of the doubt to Mr. Walker just because he made a handful of popular movies, drove cool cars and did stuff for charity. And spare me the slop about “soul mates” and all of that crap. The second he found out she was 16, he should have moved on. He didn’t. His money, his fame and his popularity bought him entree into a situation that otherwise would have landed him in jail. Elvis had the same odd taste for young girls and his fame, money and popularity bought him a bye as well. Charlie Chaplin had the same strange proclivity as well and was damn near arrested for statutory rape except that he married Lita Grey which negated the charge.

    • Nick Mullinix

      The reason nobody is making a big deal about this “scandal” is that it is not a big deal. You are in the vast minority in your opinion here. I respect your opinion; I just don’t agree with the assumptions you have made in categorizing this situation with no actual knowledge of it, the people involved, or what took place.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Brad Pitt dated 16 year old Juliette Lewis when he was 26. Most people don’t make a big deal out of that.

    • DuchessofDownton

      If I recall correctly, Juliette Lewis was an emancipated minor. It doesn’t make it right but I also don’t worship Brad Pitt. Never did.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Why does it matter if she was?

    • DuchessofDownton

      Nick, No, the reason no one is making a big deal out of this is because our society has gone into the crapper. Because Paul Walker made cool car movies, you would forgive him anything. If it was your 16 year old daughter he was diddling with, you’d sell her virginity, self respect and self worth all so you can rub shoulders with the guy who stars in the Fast and Furious cool car movies. This says far more about your values than it ever will say about mine.

    • Nick Mullinix

      Now you’re making assumptions about me. I have never seen any of his movies. I don’t particularly know who he is. You have undoubtedly lost any respect or credibility with anyone reading your posts on this site. I would imagine you have problems with that in real life too.

    • DuchessofDownton

      You imagine and presume quite a bit. Naturally, you’re wrong about every bit of it.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Brad Pitt dated 16 year old Juliette Lewis when he was 26. He career has sky rocketed since then. What are you talking about?

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Provide evidence or shut up.

    • DuchessofDownton

      Awwww….someone burst your little bubble about your Fast and Furious cool car movie guy????

  • Donnie Walsh

    Where was this girl’s parents in all this dating muckity muck ? And Walker should be fuggin horsewhipped ! What was he thinking? He doesn’t get a pass for being famous, white and rich !! DAMN !

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Why horsewhipped?
      “Two studies have investigated the association between age difference and aspects of females’ sexual debut. Abma and colleagues used 1995 NSFG data to examine partner age difference in the context of measuring “wantedness” of first intercourse. Their findings suggested that wantedness is inversely related to the age difference between a young woman and her partner, and that it may be related to her limited control over the situation.6 Furthermore, Leitenberg and Saltzman found that among females who had had first sexual intercourse at ages 11-12, those who had a partner five or more years their senior had an elevated risk of attempted suicide, substance abuse and pregnancy. Among females who had had first intercourse between the ages of 13 and 15, having older partners was associated only with truancy. In contrast, among females whose age at first intercourse was 16-18, having older partners was not linked to these negative outcomes. Thus, adverse effects of partner age difference may lessen as females mature.7″

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Horsewhipped? Give me a reason.

    • Donnie Walsh

      If U need one – yo az should be whipped too ! Go get ur milk & cookies !

    • Man_Of_Sin

      Read.

      “Two studies have investigated the association between age difference and aspects of females’ sexual debut. Abma and colleagues used 1995 NSFG data to examine partner age difference in the context of measuring “wantedness” of first intercourse. Their findings suggested that wantedness is inversely related to the age difference between a young woman and her partner, and that it may be related to her limited control over the situation.6 Furthermore, Leitenberg and Saltzman found that among females who had had first sexual intercourse at ages 11-12, those who had a partner five or more years their senior had an elevated risk of attempted suicide, substance abuse and pregnancy. Among females who had had first intercourse between the ages of 13 and 15, having older partners was associated only with truancy. In contrast, among females whose age at first intercourse was 16-18, having older partners was not linked to these negative outcomes. Thus, adverse effects of partner age difference may lessen as females mature.7″

      http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3430402.html

      In other words you have no reason besides being a sheep.

    • Nick Mullinix

      Excellent information. I see this ended the conversation pretty quickly.

    • Man_Of_Sin

      You ever know these people don’t seem to care that teens pressure other teens for sex.

      “Teenage boys think it is acceptable to pressure girls into sex and to use alcohol to get them into bed, a study of 14 to 16-year-olds shows.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3384737/Teenage-boys-say-it-is-acceptable-to-pressure-girls-into-sex.html

  • Roger

    I am 52 and in a serious relationship with a 17 year old girl, who is also smoking hot. It is legal, we dig each other, and I don’t give a rat’s butt what anyone else thinks. She likes my maturity, my experience, my money, my prowess in bed. So what? I support her in many ways. We get looks in public from prudes, the PC set, when we kiss or hold hands. There are times we have even had the police called on us – in public! – and had to show our IDs. I have a friendly relationship with her parents who are younger than I am. Big deal – the world works on many mysterious ways. Most of the people who say Paul Walker is disgusting are just jealous. My girl is way more mature than most 17 year olds of course, otherwise there wouldn’t be much to talk about.

    • Mike Mc

      Ewww Roger, that’s gross. When she is 47…you will be 82 or dead.

    • Mike Mc

      No, Roger she is not mature. Maturity comes with life experience….has she even graduated HS? What types of jobs has she had? Has she ever had her own apartment or home? Has she ever been responsible for bills?

      No, she is not mature…no matter what you want to keep telling yourself to justify your perversion.

    • FarltonFole

      Sounds like you guys have a strong relationship. Make sure you help her with her homework. Oh, and if she’s good in bed, up her allowance. Don’t forget to groom and feed her. And water her.

      PS: If you raise her right, in a couple of years she can be your nurse! lol

    • roflmao!

      ROFLMAO @ your old wrinkled-up, gray-headed, Preparation-H a$$ chasing after some young piece of tail!!! Do you have ANY idea how RIDICULOUS you look, and how slutty she looks? Hmmmm???? Nope, didn’t think so….lol, carry on, sugar-daddy! lol!!!!!

  • mowens4586

    Wait. If she’s 23 and the kid is only 8 years younger than her. That means she had the kid when she was 15-16 ish depending on the month. Maybe that’s why Paul Walker married her? It would be easier to marry her and brain wash her then to pay child support when you’re an actor. I’m just sayin’ maybe that’s the original reason they were together and things just worked out from there. Is it kinda weird, yes. But, stranger things have happened before. Who cares, he’s dead. I just feel bad he died because other than possibly starting a relationship with someone who he possibly shouldn’t have. I hear he was a really nice and well liked guy. And he was in some of my favorite films of the last ten years. And he likes cars. Sounds like a pretty cool guy if you ask me…

  • Ali

    He’s mormon so chalk it up to that. He probably enjoyed dating in Hollywood as a younger man but now wanted to settle down with a girl who hadn’t been around the block. I’m sure this is connected to the church and their teachings in some way. If he had parental permission (and that in itself is weird,) I guess it is okay but I agree, it seems very odd and I’m surprised this wasn’t a bigger issue in the media.

    There are photos of them together so it wasn’t a secret, but still, if he met her when she was 16, that is really, really weird. Perhaps he wasn’t as confident and cool as he appeared on screen and was more of a mental midget and thought (in his head) that he was younger. Again, no matter how you sugar coat this and try to make it sound normal, it wasn’t.

    I admit to being charmed by his good looks and good nature and really want to give him a pass on this, but it’s just too weird.

  • Ali

    What really makes me uncomfortable is my own issue with the fact that I find it MUCH easier to accept Walker/Pilsner Gosnell than I did Stodden/ Doug Hutchison.

    I admit that I am uncomfortable with the Walker thing but not to the point that I was with Stodden/Hutchison. That is unfair isn’t it? It’s because Walker is good looking and is seemingly younger than his actual years while Hutchison was unattractive and seemed SO much older. This bugs me and I don’t know how to justify it. By definition, both men are pervy/creeps but I just can’t go there with Walker.

  • myscrnnm

    If you were really “old fashioned” as you say, then you would find this perfectly normal. In ancient times the age gaps in relationships were even greater because young females are more fertile while older males were stronger and had more resources to provide for a family.

    • Michael Weiss

      old fashioned means like 1950s.. 1920s…. 1910s…. 1700s NOT ANCIENT TIMES YOU BLEEDING MORON! Have fun with yr Statutory Rape.

  • DrumminD21311

    Most 33-year-old men would date a 16-year-old if given the opportunity with no social repercussions, but creepy as hell. He was either extremely immature, or extremely creepy.

  • SGSJason

    Courtney Stodden doesn’t just weird us the F out because of her soon to be ending “marriage”. I truly think that was all just a publicity stunt anyway. He was her manager and she has no talent that wasn’t surgically given to her. Their “marriage” was the only thing that could make her famous.

    The main reason Courtney Stodden weirds us the F out is that she is literally the human equivalent of nails on a chalkboard. Her pawing and fawning over her “husband” during some of their interviews was extremely fake, cheesy, and creepy without even thinking about the age difference. I wouldn’t touch her with a ten foot pole if we were the same age.

  • Nancy Lopez

    I agree, the man is dead give some respect to the family and if I were 16 and could date a handsome man like him I would not of have thought about it he is fine. And also Love should not have to only be about age is about how you feel about that person and how that person makes you feel. Sometimes young teenagers can act more mature than adults. But yeah the timing on this story is wrong give his family and daughter that respect they deserve because if it were your family would you like someone talking bad about your love one that you lost.

  • Joe

    There are at least a dozen States in America where age of consent is 16. This idea of 18 being an appropriate age is arbitrary and mostly cultural than scientific. If we were to get technical, a male younger than 25 should not engage in athletics because full physiological development has not yet finished. Asking an 18 year old youth to defend our country with service in the military should be unconscionable. But who else is going to kick down the door of some family home in Iraq? A 27 year old father or mother of three? I have a suspicion that if the military inducted only mature individuals with families, the realization of life’s priorities would trump hormones and hours of playing Call of Duty 4. In Mexico and many other nations around the world, consent is as low as 12 years of age. It was less than 100 years ago in the United States that a woman who did not get married and have children by 17 she was considered to be flirting with spinster status. Having two daughters of my own, I recoil with dread at the thought of a 40 year old hatching adult intentions with my girls. It’s a tough call because we live in an era of rapid social paradigm shifts and ethical contradictions.

    • Joe

      On the other hand life is short and it sucks that the future of teenage mothers should carry years of stigma and a career death sentence. I am grateful that I’m only 16 years apart from my mother, She gets to fully enjoy her grandchildren and we are going to make the most of the extra time we have together. Your life is ending just around the corner. 40 to 60 years of physical health and self determination is practically nothing, and nobody cheapens or wastes life more than an asshole who refuses to pay you more than minimum wage.

  • Lori

    If this was a female actress, she would have been blacklisted out of Hollywood.

  • Over & done

    Hey Samantha – you REALLY need to GET A LIFE! You’re writing about a dead guy who had a relationship seven years ago. It’s HISTORY now. Grow up….

  • Rusty Rogers

    If Paul Walker hadn’t been so dashingly handsome, it would have been an issue,
    But hey, he’s gorgeous, so forget that he was a sexual predator.

  • 1rocketman1

    Elvis Presley met Priscilla Beaulieu when she was just 14 years old. He was 10 years older, and already a rock ‘n’ roll superstar. Where was the outcry then?

  • Phoenix Bound

    Well guess what, Vanessa Bryant was underage when she and Kobe started dating. Kimora Lee was 14 when she met Russell Simmons. Just because they met at a certain age doesn’t mean they were in a sexually-based relationship. People meet one another all of the time. Unless Jasmine, Vanessa, and Kimora told you personally that they were having sex with their friend @ 16, 17, and 14, don’t believe everything else told to you.

  • steve sable

    Have you seen his girlfriend? Good for him Rip Dude you were it…

  • steve sable

    Best thing to do is to enjoy that young ass..mmm…

  • Stephen Prusinski

    I don’t think it’s a problem, and frankly nobody’s business. In many states, girls can marry at 16. The UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), which is the book of law for the military considers 16 to be of legal age for congenial relationships. If you’re shocked and appalled, I suggest you lock yourself up in church and throw away the key.

  • Kancamagus

    “This just in! Children are getting sexier… and.. that’s pretty cool.”
    -Tom Tucker, Quahog News

  • Chris

    Sensationalist media proffering opinions masquerading as news, who’d a thunk it?

    Concern about the age difference is justified. Moral outrage without any evidence whatsoever is not. The parent had a much better vantage point to determine if there was any impropriety present, if they were satisfied and you have no other points of contention other than an arbitrary assumption regarding a correlation between age and maturity (which is flimsy at best), then you have no argument for your moral outrage. In addition, it takes a lot of courage to attack someone who cannot defend themselves; Bravo! If you actually cared about the girl or were concerned about her well-being, you would have brought this up when it could have been of benefit to her; not piling on top of her grief at her husband’s passing.

  • Gertie

    Seriously?! The timing of this article is just disrespectful. Shame on you. You said you are only 24, you have a lot of growing up to do my dear.

  • Joegranby

    People have relationships without having sex. It sounds quaint to some, but it happens all the time.

  • Lorraine Waxman

    Writing this article was just for two purposes only: money and muckraking.

    By the by, Elvis and Priscilla…? Remember them? Remember that age 16 just 100 years ago was when many women were married, and often to men much older….and by the way, check out some of the biblical marriages….

    This was a seven year relationship: that ought to say it had substance.

    It is a sorry state when this is what you must pen to earn a living.

  • Jill

    Yes it is gross and just because he is dead, did not make him a saint. Seriously people.

  • ogre12

    the writer of this story like many people quickly point out the failings of others whether living or dead exposing wrongs whether true or false. It is not surprising these same people do not bring out their own dirty laundry into public. I view most news reporters as no different than lawyers meaning they are largely nothing more than evil minded manipulators who bastardize the truth for their own purposes. thie writer is a sensationalist looking to grab some attention whether the message he/she create is right or wrong at various levels.

  • Cynthia Baker

    assuming that the information is correct & PW dated her before she was 18, uhhh, big deal! if he hadnt died this wouldnt be a discussion. move on to something else, like, Vin & Paul were NOT as tight as people thought they were. i saw this article a few times, & would honestly like to know what came between them.

  • Me

    Paul Walker dumped Jasmine Pilchard-Gosnell back in 2011, he was seeing/dating other women, and he had moved on with his life. There are no new photos of them TOGETHER after early 2011, and after he dumped her it was known that she was obsessed and was stalking him. She and her family were/are giving false reports to the press regarding a “relationship”, “fiancee”, “marriage”, but Paul Walker openly DENIED it all when he was alive. Most importantly…wait for it….wait for it…..He left her absolutely NOTHING in his Will!!!! Too bad Paul Walker DID NOT really think as much of his EX f-ck buddy as she wanted him to, huh?

    • VisualInsanity

      Where did you hear that she was stalking her?

    • Me

      The same place you read “she was stalking her”.

  • nancy Alfred

    I never believed in love spells or magic until I met this spell caster once when i went to see my friend in Indian this year on a business summit. I meant a man who’s name is Esango Priest he is really powerful and could help cast spells to bring back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover and magic money spell or spell for a good job or luck spell .I’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 5 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 3years. I really loved him, but his mother was against us and he had no good paying job. So when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him. At first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 7 days when i returned to Canada, my boyfriend (now husband) called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the new job and our lives became much better. His email is esangopriest@gmail.com