As one of her “10 Most Fascinating People” this year, Barbara Walters selected the entire Kardashian family (because between them, they have one brain, and it belongs to Kris Jenner). The accompanying interview has been released, and it is as delightful as anyone could have hoped. Walters, who just doesn’t give a fuck anymore, told the Kardashians, outright, to their faces, that they have no talent.

“You don’t really act; you don’t sing; you don’t dance. You don’t have any — forgive me — any talent,” she said.

It’s brilliant.

Even more brilliant, though, is watching the wheels quickly grind behind each woman’s pound of make-up as they struggle to come up with a quick way to defend the klan. Khloe’s the first to act: “But we’re still entertaining people,” she sputters.

Kim manages a few more words on the topic: “I think it’s more of a challenge for you to go on a reality show and get people to fall in love with you for being you,” she said, “so there is definitely a lot more pressure, I think for being famous for being ourselves.”

Huh. So there’s more pressure to get out of bed and fucking live your life, which, need I remind the Kardashians, is what everybody else in the world also does, than to, say, sing and dance in front of tens of thousands of people every night for six months? Or act in Oscar-nominated films? Or even try to get work as a back-up dancer?

I think it’s not that there’s more pressure to be on reality TV, it’s that there’s less of a chance that people will like you. Because, you know, you have no talent.

Watch the video here.